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It is always good when a seller doesn't know what they are really selling, especially with coins, notgeld and banknotes. You have to have an eager eye too! Due to there being literally thousands of variants with notgeld, the chances of getting a 'nice' piece for little money is medium/reasonable/likely.  |
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Just in this morning - 2 tiny card pieces issued in Krappitz.....originally issued at 5pf face values, but these 2 have been overprinted/revalued to 25 & 50pf. There are a few variants and the better ones are with the stampmark on the reverse and the 50pf piece with the diagonal 'Funfzig', shown here.......   |
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This uncommon 'private' notgeld issue (by private we mean it was issued by a private company or something similar) was actually issued by the Oil Factory owned by 'F. Thoerl'......in Harburg:   |
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Interesting that they stamped them Ungültig (invalid) instead of just destroying them when they were through with them. I suppose because even in that time, much (all?) Notgeld was viewed as collectible.
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If a piece was 'cashed in' or used, I think they were stamped as cancelled so they couldn't be redeemed again by soneone else.....just like a cheque used to be. They must have been kept for a while and then the collectors and archivists found them. I suppose it was all about money out and money in and recording as required...... Today, coupons and tickets that get used or handed in get stamped or torn in some way so they can't be reused. I guess it was like that with these notgeld?  |
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Yes, I suppose the note still had to be retained for accounting purposes for some amount of time, so they were canceled at the point of transaction to keep it from being redeemed twice as well as denoting that it had been redeemed.
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Very interesting!  |
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Notgeld Man - I have a question - can you explain the use of stamps on notgeld? Not postage stamps but hand ink stamps. Why were they used? Thanks!
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Hi @joewobblie  Many different stamp marks are found on notgeld issues, most being some form of authorisation and others being cancellation. This was done as per the previous remarks and when an issue had 'run out' of validity for example.....the remaining pieces would have been cancelled. It was so they couldn't be reused once they had been cashed in or used. Some of the cancellations, in German, will have different words.....Ungultig, Ungiltig, Entwertet, fur sammler ( only for collector) etc. For authorization from the Council, Mayor, etc, the stampmark gave the piece its authenticity and validity. |
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Any explanation of what this note shows?   |
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It dawned on me the other day that during my collecting hiatus, nearly all the Notgeld in my collection turned 100 years old. Bad timing.  Edited by schmidty
03/15/2023 12:50 am
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I'll find out about the Reetz note - watch this space.... Yes, now that we are in 2023 it is 100 years from the category of the hyper-inflationary notgeld issues! Notgeld are now antiques! Edited by notgeldman
03/15/2023 07:18 am
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Any explanation of what this note shows? Quote: I'll find out about the Reetz note - watch this space....  Quote:
Yes, now that we are in 2023 it is 100 years from the category of the hyper-inflationary notgeld issues! Notgeld are now antiques!  |
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Reetz - it shows a somewhat comical scene of the mayor falling from his 'horse' (but I think its actually a cow or bull) which urinates on him. The mayor gets confused from the fall and thinks he is injured from the battle and covered in blood. It purports to be a memorable incident that happened in 1848. From a very good friend, I have the translation : the verse states: "A horde of Poles was reported approaching, And quickly the citizens were called to arms. The mayor, high upon his "steed", Rode proudly in front of the entire force. Now it didn't actually come to a battle, But the leader returned home with his "wounds". "Honest men of Reetz, hold on to your courage, I'm already swimming in my own blood, Fight bravely and well and each man for his comrade And save yourselves, if you only can." Edited by notgeldman
03/15/2023 7:05 pm
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his 'horse' (but I think its actually a cow or bull) Looks like a donkey to me, TBH. But it's hard to tell because the head is not very visible. |
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