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German Notgeld Collector Of 46 Years, From Uk.

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 Posted 03/27/2023  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent!!!
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Thanks, Lighthouse250! Now that I know the story, I want this series even more. Off to ebay I go!
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 Posted 03/27/2023  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to say, you are slightly wrong. This is a set of 6 that spell out R UE B CH E N (Turnips).

The Saga of the Blacksmith of Bielefeld

A blacksmith of the town of Bielefeld entered into a pact with the Devil to learn the most secret arts of the forge. One day, St Peter wanted his horse shod and as payment the blacksmith, who said that money just seemed to disappear from his purse,  asked for a blessing on his purse so that nothing could get out of it without the smith's consent. When the Devil finally came to take the blacksmith to Hell, the blacksmith told him to come into the forge through the keyhole, where he held the purse ready in order to capture the Devil. Once the Devil was in the sack, the blacksmith put it on the anvil and began to beat it until the Devil promised him many more years of life.  When the blacksmith finally died, St Peter refused him entry to Heaven because he'd made a pact with the Devil and told him to go to heck.  The Devil, mindful of his treatment by the blacksmith, refused him entry to heck.  So the blacksmith waited outside Heaven until a pure soul was ushered in.......and threw his dirty old apron through the Pearly Gates. St Peter wasn't impressed.......and so the blacksmith said he'd remove the apron, went into Heaven, and then promptly sat upon the apron and refused to move.  He told St Peter he was sitting on his own property.  And he sits there today. 

The Gypsy's Prophecy

According to a tradition, in the year 1849 when Kaiser Wilhelm I was just a prince, he went to see a gypsy fortune-teller to hear about the future of the House of Hohenzollern.  She foretold significant events by means of numerical divination. She took the individual digits of the year 1849 and added them to the year, making 1849 + 1 + 8 + 4 + 9 = 1871 and ... in 1871 Wilhelm became the first Hohenzollern Kaiser of a new German empire!  Then the same with 1871 : 1871 + 1 + 8 + 7 + 1 = 1888 ... and in 1888 there was the year of the three Hohenzollern emperors, when Wilhelm I died, his son and successor, Friedrich III, died soon after and Wilhelm's grandson became Wilhelm II! Then the same with 1888 : 1888 + 1 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 1913 ... and in 1913 all the German princes met together and the Hohenzollern Kaiser was the first amongst them and the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Leipzig was celebrated with a clunky new monument!  Then the same with 1913 : 1913 + 1 + 9 + 1 + 3 = 1927 .... and so on the Bielefeld note, of 1921 you have 1927 referenced as a year when something significant would happen in the House of Hohenzollern ... the return of the Hohenzollern monarchy. It didn't happen!

The picture where the tail is present or missing is the third note, piece 'B'.


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 Posted 03/27/2023  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lighthouse250 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not "wrong" :D It's effectively the same story. Legends come in many variations, these are just 2 variations of the same story. After all, everybody knows nothing of this actually really happened :D
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....why so defensive? Don't worry about it. You incorrectly stated it was from a set of 4.... so that is 'wrong'. Let's move on......
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 Posted 03/27/2023  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an interesting piece, I don't think I have shown before. An uncut piece from Teningen made from gold foil/aluminium.


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 Posted 03/27/2023  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schmidty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That foil note is pretty cool. So, did it get cut and the front and back were stuck together somehow? It seems like we're looking at an obverse/reverse here...maybe not?
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My thoughts are that it is from a printing sheet that would have fronts and backs on and which only had 1 'pass' through the print machine (rather than 2).
After the initial run through the printing machine, wh8ch my piece has had) usually a second run would have taken place, where the sheet would have been turned over. That way, there would be printing on both sides. So my piece was only printed the one side.
Don't know of any that were glued.
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Here is an interesting piece, I don't think I have shown before. An uncut piece from Teningen made from gold foil/aluminium.
Very interesting!
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Here is a lovely looking set from Lichtenstein-Callnberg.It's another set depicting the devil. If you look closely, there are 2 cats chasing some mice......right at the very bottom

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Here is a lovely looking set from Lichtenstein-Callnberg.It's another set depicting the devil.
Very nice!

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If you look closely, there are 2 cats chasing some mice......right at the very bottom
I see them!
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Thanks @jbuck. I only mentioned them as a lot of collectors like to see different animals it seems.
Have a nice day. Weather here is beautiful.
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2 larger sized notes from Ahlen, dating from 1918. These are 'grossgeld'......face values of 1 mark or over. The term is used to differentiate from the numerous pieces with face values in pfennigs.....which are known as 'kleingeld' (big money & small money).
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2 larger sized notes from Ahlen, dating from 1918.
Nice examples!


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These are 'grossgeld'......face values of 1 mark or over. The term is used to differentiate from the numerous pieces with face values in pfennigs.....which are known as 'kleingeld' (big money & small money).
Thank you for sharing. I am now having flashbacks of high school German classes... nearly 40 years in the rear-view.
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