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Valued Member
United States
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This is a good exercise for me, observing everyone's comments. Look forward to your sharing of the grade PCGS assigns.
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Results are in and looks like PCGS got it right again 
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Pillar of the Community
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Fair dinkum, they may be right.
I can't speak for all of you, but it is REALLY hard to grade high grade Australian Florins, AU up is impossible. Especially when collectors like me are used to VF at best for the GV and earlier stuff and only having high grade for my G6 and E's.
Looking for UNC, should be no obvious wear to naked eye, the first spots I see are on the spines of the Roo and Emu, the very edges of the shield (And same for Kruger Grey Obverse) - this coin I thought I saw the slightest rubbing on the emu's beak and the star (The apex may have a light rub). Any obvious flattening in this area with a full shine is a high EF piece. Lighest rubbing on spines, beaks and stars is AU.
To me AU really is a smidgen below UNC and still fantastic (Any AU King George Florins you don't want - send them my way!).
The other problem I find with Aussie silver, mostly shilling and florin is you can have full lustre on VF pieces! and here in NZ I find cleaning is a common issue, many naive collectors get fooled by cleaned VG and Fine coins.
For the King, an UNC should have full and very sharp beads and pearls with no rubbing, for EF the second set of pearls should be clear and separate. For VF central diamond must be distinguishable from the two bands of the crown. For Fine, the full crown band must be visible (But not sharp).
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Quote: The other problem I find with Aussie silver, mostly shilling and florin is you can have full lustre on VF pieces! and here in NZ I find cleaning is a common issue, many naive collectors get fooled by cleaned VG and Fine coins.
Full lustre is often artificial thou.,Dealers know what they can and can't get thru. PCGS/NGC. A Oz Shilling or Florin that has spent a 100 years in a draw is almost always toned,nothing like what gets slabbed as genuine lustre these days. Just my opinion.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is possible to have full luster in the fields of less than uncirculated Australian silver, but in this case, there won't be any on the high points, where wear may have occurred.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Edited by Basil 03/09/2021 05:11 am
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