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Pillar of the Community
United States
1316 Posts |
My wife calls me a Numisnerd. Pretty sure it's a nice way of saying I'm nuts.
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Pillar of the Community
4628 Posts |
No surprises - I see my eccentricity as a gimmick, highly intelligent, precocious, dyslexic, openly gay and diagnosed with extremely high functioning autism (IQ 141). Never really had many close friends and was in my exploitative friendships as a child and teen - socially and sexually naive - yet an incredible ability to memorise dates and facts - I fell into coins and stamps, along with a healthy respect for History and Archaeology (I have a Masters in Historical Archaeology - a thesis based on a site of a whaling store in which many artefacts including 3 coins from the 1840s were found). What else, fortunate I never married or had a naggy wife or naggy partner -have a well off partner who is just as crazy as me, although we are both really sane, he dosen't collect anything but is one heck of an accountant who has made a lot of people rich - yet him and I live off the smell of an oily rag. I have 3 pairs of old trackpants and buy all my clothes from chain stores - yet will eagerly spend hundreds on coins, stamps, Prince stuff, books and even Creator lego. Yeah I think myself and "normalcy" departed ways around 44 years ago.  I mean I spend $500 on that, and my partner is like "Oh you need to save your money" and everyone else is like - you spent that much money on a broken up worn lump of metal like that! Are you insane!! From a person who is a drunk and spends the same on Marijuana, beer and gambling (My brother). That crap fades, but my coin will endure after I die. The same brother answered one of my Homophobic aunties if my partner was okay for me and he said "Yes, he's great because they are both as mad as rats - I considered it a compliment. *** Edited by Staff | The bad word filter is in place for a reason. Bypassing the filter and making the intended word obvious anyway is completely unacceptable. ***
Edited by Princetane 05/02/2020 11:17 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
As someone with Asperger syndrome (nowadays on the so-called autism spectrum but almost unknown when I was a kid) I have always been drawn to collecting things. The quirks of the spectrum have left me verbally very gifted but not so much when it comes to math and numbers. Despite this, numismatics is my main hobby these days!! Over the past 40 odd years I have collected sports cards, antiques, jewelry, coins, toy cars, model trains, books, glassware, vintage hi-fi/tube audio, action figures, stamps, records, bottles, and quite a good many things besides those. Due to the associated social anxiety/avoidant aspects of being on "the spectrum" as well as being type II bipolar, and having a lot of health issues, I did not attend many shows or social events when I was younger, but now that I've grown up a lot and gotten my health well sorted I am much more interested in hanging out with people who love coins as much as I do, and I try to go to as many shows as possible these days, both to geek out over awesome coins (affordable or not) and to bond with people who share the same love of shiny little pieces of metal. In the past I've done metal detecting and bottle privy/trash pit digging (try explaining that one to the uninitiated) so I'm no stranger to people thinking some of my hobbies are weird! One man's trash is, indeed, another man's treasure, and I think coin collecting is a pretty "normal" hobby, one with a long and storied history! To me, people who DON'T collect coins are the weird folks. 
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
No, we are not all nuts. Some have accused me of having a screw loose ! 
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Pillar of the Community
4628 Posts |
Paralyse, thanks for your story.
I am so glad that I am not the only numismatist with Autism/Aspergers Syndrome (I was diagnosed as an Aspie in 1999, but in 2009 I was rediagnosed with high functioning autism as my IQ was apparently too high).
And I bet you there are plenty more of us in the same boat.
Your post also reminded I do collect and have collected other weird things in the past - a new one is going to junk shops and buying old 78 records - which I have learnt how to date between the usual 40s/50s Hollywood type Bing Crosby/Sinatra stuff and truly old 1910s records!
Plus my book collection is pretty interesting too, a 45 year run of Consumer Magazines (NZ Consumer rights publication) and Heritage (NZ Building and Archaeology preservation) magazines from issue 1 in 1983 onwards.
So yeah, thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4333 Posts |
When a younger man, I'd spend most of my money on women, wine and song. The rest of my money I wasted.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Pillar of the Community
United States
9792 Posts |
Quote: hfjacinto: I also do astrophotography and people in that hobby are totally nuts. Yes we are!  Quote: but somebody I know has more books than I have coins I also may be closing in on that as well, 70% of all my books are about coins though, the rest are astronomy or Colorado Mining and Railroad history. I have so many I had to get a storage unit 10' x 12' boxes stacked currently at about 6'-8'. 
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
7941 Posts |
In 2011 I moved for the first time in 22 years (depending a bit on how I count). I have moved two more times since. My books got pruned a lot during those moves (not hers), and never re-grew. Can;t say that about coins.  But they take up far less space.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
@princetane you're welcome! Numismatics is truly a hobby that I am proud to be a part of, and I don't think it's weird; I think there are a lot more people out there who don't go to shows and post on coin forums, and those people are also probably as devoted as the rest of us. We should all be thrilled to be able to hold history right there in our hands. As to how to bring the conversation to the general public, I've found that any good size bit of silver works nicely; kids, in particular, seem to go bonkers for Large Cents, Half Cents, and Morgan dollars. I've got a couple of rolls of junky cull Buffalo nickels I slip into change now and then, or hand out to customers' kids (although not more than a few of those customers have "borrowed" those nickels with a grin...closeted numismatists?) I have a very generous family friend who runs a charity dealing with providing shelter and counseling for children from abusive families. In addition to owning a share in a couple of casinos, he works tirelessly with professionals and local businesses to secure more donations for shelters, and does his best to make sure no kid is left homeless on the streets. Inside his house is an entire fairly large room devoted to nothing but Disney stuff. Posters, toys, collectibles, art, props, everything; the wallpaper is Disney; the furniture is Disney; the cabinets are full of Disney. The Disney bed has Disney sheets. The dishes are Disney China. It's pretty much a shrine to old Walt. 99.9% of the people who he meets would probably have no idea that this staid-looking businessman and casino maven is a huge Disney fan who travels around the country to conventions and anime/comic shows. They might even think that was odd, or weird, or not understand why he would spend presumably thousands of dollars on Disney items, some of them very scarce, or nearly unique. But he also tells people about his hobby, and shows them his cell phone photos of his collections, and you'd be amazed how many people have at least one Disney-related story to share, and what a great icebreaker that is for building trust and getting people to buy into your mission. Numismatics can be a conversational bridge as well -- find me a person over 30 in this country that doesn't have at least ONE story involving coins. I don't think you can. So don't be afraid to talk coins with strangers, at least on a general and basic level; you might be surprised how many secret coin collectors are out there. 
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Valued Member
United States
171 Posts |
Quote:
I also do astrophotography and people in that hobby are totally nuts.
Oh really? I do a lot of astro-landscape photography. Lots of time lapse in fact. I'm an astronomer by profession too.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
People mostly all collect something. There are car collectors, How Wheel Car collectors and who can forget Beanie Babies. Remember those sport cards? It's just something to do.
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Valued Member
United States
287 Posts |
Nah, I don't consider you all nuts. People collect just about everything and ask themselves these very same questions, but we forget the institution of collecting is enjoyed on a near universal level. In a sense, collecting is instinctual, gathering material items that possess great sentimental value, amassing something to be proud of, something that tells a story, or conveys a bit of who you are. You see this in almost all collections, regardless of the subject matter. Truth be told, however, I sometimes feel nuts for being a coin collector given my age. Comparatively speaking, I'm quite young, not even 20 yet. I grew up in a time with far more outlets for collecting beyond just coins and stamps. Others my age express a greater interest in media, going out of their way to collect things like vinyl records, cassette tapes, VHS's, and video games. I enjoy all that stuff too, even used to collect some of them myself, but there's something about numismatics that strikes me in a way no other collectible does. It might be perhaps due to the global demand for currency, coupled with a likewise ironic... lack of genuine intrigue. Many people don't find anything remotely engaging about currency beyond it's foundational purpose, and consequently neglect the centuries of history that various coins played witness to. Holding an IHC or a Morgan with the prospect that it might've once been in the hands of a cowboy is so friggin cool to me. There's nothing wrong with me engaging in this hobby, but sometimes I wonder how and why. Why me? When I have all these other things that should interest me more, why do I always resort to (no offense here) the definitive "grandpa's hobby"? But at the same time, it's great to have younger blood keeping such a hobby alive, so I have no shame in it. As far as interests in academics, arts, music, entertainment, politics, whatever, I'm mostly well in line with my peers, but coin collecting is absolutely the outlier.
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
5174 Posts |
Quote: I am so glad that I am not the only numismatist with Autism/Aspergers Syndrome (I was diagnosed as an Aspie in 1999, but in 2009 I was rediagnosed with high functioning autism as my IQ was apparently too high). ...Wait, does Asperger's seriously have a low IQ as a requirement? That's literally the first time I've heard of that. Most Aspies I know of have fairly high IQs. I never did a proper IQ test myself (that I know of), though if I had to guess I'd estimate that my IQ is probably somewhere in the 140s. As a child, I kept acing all the tests; nowadays I feel a lot stupider. I'm not actually sure what, if anything, I was diagnosed as; best I can tell, the actual diagnosis was "early infantile autism", which Russian medicine at the time (mid-to-late 1990s) apparently still classified as a form of schizophrenia. Fortunately, unlike many other Russians with autism diagnoses, I avoided getting my diagnosis reclassified as schizophrenia proper at age 18 (probably because by then almost nobody really cared what exactly, if anything, I had in the first place, and most of the people who did care already knew what ASD was).
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Moderator
 United States
188612 Posts |
Quote: We are not NUTS. We are ECCENTRIC! 
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Pillar of the Community
4628 Posts |
january1may - When they tested me in 2009, they told me in New Zealand, all their Aspergers patients had IQ's between 70 and 104 and there was over 100 of them. My IQ did not fit and yet I had a lot of the common behaviours of people with autism (I detest the term "autistic" as it means the syndrome controls you - not the other way around, you have it - it does not have you). The latest debates is that High Functioning Autism should be renamed High Functioning Syndrome as it is not an intellectual disability and thus does not qualify as autism. It is bascially people with some quirky socially naive behaviours coupled with singular interests and obsessions (Like coins) and a high intellect but some poor social skills. Unlike Aspergers and lower functioning autisms (Classic Autism, Kanner Syndrome, CDD and mild mental retardation) - High Functioning individuals like myself can learn the appropriate social behaviours and thus the autism can be self corrected. I have managed all I can without any form of medication. Also HFA individuals are less likely to have it with other disorders like ADD, Williams Syndrome, Prader Willi Syndrome and Dyslexia. I do suffer from Numisphilia and Numishoardaphilia though! 
Edited by Princetane 05/06/2020 01:47 am
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