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Commems Collection Classic: Looking Back At The Silver Commemorative Market In 1930

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Tonight, I thought I'd share a page from the 1930 edition of the Scott Stamp & Coin Company's Standard Catalogue of Minor Coins of the United States. It listed, with one illustration per type, US Half Cents through five-cent coins. It also included a listing of US fractional currency and the US silver commemorative coins (1892 Columbian Exposition through 1928 Hawaiian Discovery).

It was actually more of a price list than a general catalogue as it listed the price at which a given coin could be purchased from Scott. Unless noted otherwise, the prices listed would purchase a "good average specimen" of early-date coins and a later-date coin in "very fine state." I would imagine that prices for coins in higher grades would be available upon request.

Here's the commemorative coin listing page (only the Columbian was illustrated):

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A few things to note:

- The 1915 Pan-Pac half dollar was the market leader in 1930 at $17.50; it was 75% more expensive than the next two coins: the 1925 Ft. Vancouver and the 1928 Hawaiian Discovery (each at $10.00). Today, though it is one of the more expensive coins in the set, in MS-65 its selling price has been surpassed by multiple coins on the 1930 list.

- The price difference (on a percentage basis) between the two varieties of the Alabama half dollar has increased over the years with the 2x2 variety commanding more of a premium today.

- The Missouri price relationship is very different today. The 2x4 variety commands a small (~10-20%) premium these days vs. the 5X in 1930.

- Today, the Grant with Star variety is priced 8X to 10X the price of a similarly-graded Plain variety vs. the 4X+ spread between the coins in 1930.

- The Columbian half dollars continue to trail the field on through to today!

Note: I looked at MS-63 and MS-65 coins when making my 2020 price evaluations; I used PCGS CoinFacts. Obviously, market prices can vary.

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Thanks for this. Even then the Hawaii had a big premium.
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17.50 is about the same as 270 today . Source .... in2013dollars.com
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If you had $20 to spend on commemorative coins in 1930, what would you buy?
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I think in 1930 a knowledgeable collector could scare up a Proof Columbian or Isabella for less than $20. Although I'd keep the $20 as a double eagle ; they're about $1500-something now which only a few coins on that list can claim. Using gold as a standard, that would place #21, the Vancouver priced @$10, now @$750+/-. Just about right for a really nice 65/66. The Pan-Pac #5 @$1400. Again, about right for a 65. I'd have been sick of the commemorative proliferation by then and missed the Hawaii which even though the most recent was in the top 3 for cost and a substantially lower mintage than most.
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If you had $20 to spend on commemorative coins in 1930, what would you buy?

Sight unseen, I would buy four of the Lafayette silver dollars - if I got a gem or two, they would be high dollar coins.

If I could inspect and select, I would purchase two Lafayette dollars, a Grant w/ Star and two Sesquicentennial half dollars. I'd use the remaining $0.50 for a hamburger, fries and drink!



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$17.50 is about the same as $270 today.

True. This points to the fact that the values of scarce/rare coins have outpaced inflation over the long haul and that they can be a good investment. Not so much for common coins, but true for scarce-to-rare pieces in top condition.



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Very interesting!

I agree! I always enjoy looking back to see how the classic US commemorative market evolved when it was an active series. You can definitely get a sense of the changing focus and viewpoints of collectors.

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You can definitely get a sense of the changing focus and viewpoints of collectors.
Agreed!
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Fascinating thread - many thanks commems for starting the discussion.

Lots of good comments on the prices and price growth - I have noting to add that hasn't already been said.

I do note that in one instance the 'common name' of the coin has changed since the 1930 publication.

Coin #25, priced at $1.50 is listed as the 1927 Battle of Bennington half dollar.

Today most collectors identify the coin as the 1927 Vermont Sesquicentennial half dollar - featuring the lovely catamount on the reverse. Also struck as the highest relief design of any classic silver commemorative half dollar.
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Lafayette silver dollars!!
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Just goes to show that even back then, the adage was true: Just because it's old don't mean it's reallyreally valuable.
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