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Australian And New Zealand Coins, How Far Back Can We Go - First Edition

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 Posted 12/27/2020  04:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 1995 Australia is quite lacking too. No Weary Dunlop for me, again as I missed the 50 cent lot auction, my 50 cent coins are very limited and I don't have any more until 1987 and then 1984.


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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition

What I do have is a standard $1 and $2 - both fairly low mintages, a slightly worn UN 20 cents, the first commem 20 cent issued by Australia and a 5 cent. Again average condition is still at least EF with much AU, the $1 coin is the first truly worn coin I have shown so far - I would say this is down to gVF/VF condition with the roo leg lines quite faint.

And we saw goodbye to 1995.
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12/27/2020 04:54 am
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1994

New Zealand Bi-metallic 50 Cents.
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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces30346.html

From Australia.

$1 coin to celebrate 10 years of the dollar coin. (NCLT)
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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1127.html

Steve :)
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 Posted 12/28/2020  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There you go again bursting out all those goodies.

Expecting gasps of amazement as I unveil my Dollar decade and bimetallic 50c NCLT coins.

Anticipating what I am about to show. Anyway dinner now, you will see all mine after dinner.

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12/28/2020 02:19 am
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1994 was a very sparse year for New Zealand, like 1995 just 1 coin came out in circulation, the 5 cent coin.


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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition

This was the first "silver" denomination released since 1990 and even the 1990 20 cent coin was mostly held back with most being released around 2000. Again the plethora of late 80s dated coins ensured demand was low. The 5 cent being the most widely used in the era, was more in demand. Many prices ended in .95 and thus it was used a lot. Rounding also ensured any value ending in 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 was rounded to .05 and thus the coin was needed.

Eftpos was catching on in the 1990s, but nearly all transactions still involved cash, the Eftpos really catching on after 2000. 20 million were minted, which was only average by 5 cent standards, a further 40 million came out in 1995.

12 years of usage also ensured, many were EF rather than AU/UNC and its the first date in which my example is not stunning, but still a good one. This is EF, wear is clear on the Queen and the lustre is a bit duller.
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The New Zealand 50 cent bimetallic coin was a one off, Steve has an amazing photo of it, mine is less amazing - but my coin is definitely an uncirculated one at least.

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Obverse with gold plated (Aluminium Bronze) centre

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This came out slightly bluish - can't understand why.

The coin did not circulate and was only issued in a pack (Cardboard) as a single item and in the 1994 annual sets (1993 and 1994 had the large $5 coins - but these were not connected with the annual sets).

I believe the loose coins were sold at $24.95 and annual set was $39.95 UNC and $89.95 proof (Again change would mean you got one of those stunning 1994 5 cent coins! )

52.5k of them were issued and the occasion was the 225th anniversary of Cook's discovery of New Zealand (Calling it a "rediscovery" was not in vogue yet - the PC wave was beginning).

The celebrations followed up with a replica that sailed around New Zealand and Australia in 1994/95 and went well sans a few Maori protestors. The Australians even issued a pair of stamps around this replica.

There was never any intention to make it a circulation piece as the cost was too expensive and hard to make (This is bimetallic not plated). Even by 1994, 50 cents was not much money - it may have bought you some Juicy Fruit or Bubbalicious .

A Deluxe version of 5,000 with a deluxe silver out ring was issued and more bizarrely a white gold version with 9/22 carat gold centre was issued (500) and 200 were made into a watch!

The Deluxe version was in proof sets and standard coin in UNC sets.

I actually have 2 of them loose and only paid $22 for the pair - so are not complaining!
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12/28/2020 02:09 am
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Australia had a few coins in 1994 too and one of the famous ones was the dollar decade, as in 1984 the first $1 coin for circulation was issued.

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1994 Dollar decade $1 - C mintmark

Issues of the coin were sporadic to this point with only 6 coins issued for circulation besides this one. Mob of roos designs appeared in 1984, 1985 and surprisngly also in 1994. In 1991 was a gimmick called mint your dollar at the Canberra mint and some dated that year have emerged, most were in packs now very scarce (The cost of $2 to do it scared off some people - the age of people forking out $100s for a coloured ring $2 coin was way off).

Add to this the commem dollars, Year of Peace, bicentennial and Landcare (The Barcelona coin was NCLT) it was miniscule.

The design is interesting showing a paper dollar crumpling and becoming a coin. This signified how paper dollar notes lasted very little time and thus needed replacing constantly - whereas a coin was more durable and lasts 30 rather than 1 year.

It did not help that inflation also rendered a dollar worthless a lot quicker.

Here is an example of what the coin replaced.



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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition
This is a 1972 Commonwealth of Australia dollar, later examples from 1974 Dropped the Commonwealth.

Hope this helps with any reason why the coin came out
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The rest of my 1994 is as expected.


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the 5c and 10c saw generous mintages, especially the 5 cents, issuing 7 times as many as the Kiwis did. The 20 cent is the first common date since 1982. It seems very few were issued between then and 1994. 1983 and 84 had generous mintages that were melted down (Again legendary stashes exist), 1985 saw a small number minted - just 2.7 million and I don't have one. 1988 saw even less minted just 100 and something thousand and again if any exist - its a miracle. The rest of the years were set only pieces, meaning if you want a 1987 or a 1991 20 cent piece, you need to buy a mint set.

So there won't be any more 20 cent coins shown by me for a while! The 50 cent coin was year of the Family and had one of the ugliest designs ever, a 4 year old kids drawing of a "family" - I don't have it and don't want it.

Also shown are the MOR 1994 dollar (The next one you will see is back in 1980s) and a $2 coin - both had generous mintages by early 90s standards.


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This image also has the reverse of my dollar decade coin - the shinier one - still a mystery has this nice NCLT piece ended up in an "accumulation" lot of Australian change.

Starting in 1993 back to 1990 - I have quite a few less coins of each country, mainly as most were not issued or some had low mintages like the 1993 $2.
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My 1994 NZ bimetallic 50 cents:
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Sorry to steal your thunder Princetane.
I'm on holiday at the moment so I'm able to post earlier than normal. Not quite sure where I acquired the NZ 1994 50 cent, but it was added to my gallery in March 2015.
I would like to see more bi-metallic coins used in Aus and NZ, they can't be that expensive to make if Thailand can use them for 10 Baht, which is equivalent to 44c.

Cheers

Steve :)
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In Australia, we also had the Year of the Family 50c coin.
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This came in either Narrow date version
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or Wide date version.
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Steve :)
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1994 -- Australia, 100 dollars (1ox Au):

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Steve - its all good, I was joking, judging by the fact that the 3 of us have the Bimetallic 50 cent coin, I have to agree.

If we go with bimetallic circulation pieces (And there has been some nice NCLT of both countries and the Trimetallic 2006 Melbourne Commonwealth games coins!) I think they will be $5 and $10 when these values become coins, probably like the Euros / Kenya, althernate the Brass coloured and white coloured metals.

Except they should at least do better quality coins, large and well made not cheap and nasty like the 1 and 2 Euros or for that matter the new English pounds (The £2 is a nice coin though).

Pepa - love that big gold piece, glad to see you joining the thread, the more the merrier and your stuff is always welcome as I intend to show mostly coins that circulated. The coin is above is gorgeous - a proof?
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Yes, nice coin. Way above my pay scale though. :)
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Not much use now, but just brought a collection of Australian shillings 1910 - 1963 - and every date is there including the rare 1915 coins and 1933. It will be a big help when we reach that era!
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Quote:
Not much use now, but just brought a collection of Australian shillings 1910 - 1963 - and every date is there including the rare 1915 coins and 1933. It will be a big help when we reach that era!


Can't wait to see them.
I just checked by shillings and I still need all the rare ones.

Steve :)
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