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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks like a metal detector find, and possibly too damaged to grade. Or has ED and will do nothing but rot if encapsulated.
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Pillar of the Community
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You mentioned that the weight and thickness were both slightly "off". Does that mean higher or lower than expected? And what were the opinions from ANACS, PCGS, and NGC the first time around?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If its an odd planchet just seek out the Half Cent guru's currently at EAC and have him give an opinion. Then submit to an EAC run auction raw ... JPL |
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The First time around ANACS, NGC, and PCGS all said Undecided. I called PCGS after I got that verdict and they said basically the graders could not come to a unanimous decision. Also the coins thickness was less than it should have been and the diameter wider than it should have been. but not by much.
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Pillar of the Community
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Basically it means that they can't call it genuine but can't call it not genuine. They won't touch a coin like that. Too much liability.
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I was thinking about sending it back through. I do not know how much research they do. I sent the coin to the grading companies through dealers and not by myself. I looked at the ANACS form today and if I'm not mistaken it looks like if you pay more they will spend the time to do more research and in depth grading? Correct me if I am wrong.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Your wrong. Contact EAC - you and your coin NEED technical assistance before proceeding to auction. Worst case - Its an off-planchet with environmental damage. I own the finest 1 Real General Vargas (Mexico) piece both for 1811 and 1812 based on Stacks/Sedwick/Heritage/Ponterio/Superior catalogs and it was called VF - Environmental Damage (incorrectly - BTW) but you don't see me worrying <BG>.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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EAC is definitely the way to go.  to the CCF! |
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I'm not trying to sell it I just want to know if it is real. I don't even care if the put a grade to it I will grade it myself. If they were to grade it too that would be way better, but I'd settle for just letting me know if it is real or not. I will contact EAC next week.
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Pillar of the Community
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and offered me several thousand for the coin. TAKE IT |
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What is contact info for EAC?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Google Early American Coppers club.
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United States
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I have been summoned... kinda.
I think this coin is in amazing condition for a 1796, and that certainly is not the reason it wasn't certified. Rather, it looks to me like an old electrotype. The surfaces are considerably lumpy and I don't see the denticles. Check for a seam on the edge.
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Questions about the Electrotype Copy.
Is the Electrotype Copy only in the No Pole Variety
I have the With Pole
Is the Electrotype Copy magnetic? I believe it would be using a metal core.
The coin I have is not magnetic.
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In the '70s-'80s, we could cherrypick DB Half Cents that had fat squared edges and overflowing rims. For years, we thought "cut downs" and we found them for 1804 (incl. a C-5 in monster XF, and a C-9, d/s right at where the break forms in LIBERTY)-05-06 (esp a very nice 06 S6St that was stolen from me). Then, I found an 1807 that had half fat square etc, and half normal rims and edges: it had inexplicably gone through the upsetting mill only half way. Yours looks like it never made it through the mill, just like the others. If I'm not mistaken there is an EAC/Penny Wise article about it. There were a few that had thick, choppy edges and no evidence of upsetting. Those wer were sure were on cut-down planchets-the edges were almost multi-sided. If your has a square, uninterrupted edge, then it may be unmilled. If the edge looks sheared in places, well... it'd be a bell-ringer if it's genuine Edited by whatdowehavehere
12/10/2020 11:23 pm
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