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...the standard catalogs do say that only the overdate version exists for business strikes of that year. It may be a mere misprint in the Krause catalog or it may actually be that they are all overdates, but this may only be detected by use of a very powerful magnifier... All Australian 1925 shillings were struck with 1925/3 overdate dies. In 1923, no shillings were produced, but dies had been prepared in anticipation of orders that never came. So, the mint took the attitude of "waste not, want not" and retooled the 1923s for 1925. I assume they didn't do it in 1924 because a 1924/3 overdate would have been harder to hide. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Thanks for clearing that up, Sap.. it seemed rather odd it was the only one listed! Latest coin info: 1933 New Zealand florin KM# 4 Florin 1933-1936 0.5 Silver 0.1818 oz. ASW Obv: Crowned bust left Rev: Kiwi bird Composition Silver Fineness 0.5 Weight 11.31 g 0.1818 oz ASW Diameter 28.58 mm Designer Obverse Percy Metcalfe Designer Reverse G.E. Kruger-Gray 1933 Mintage: 2,100,000 F:2.50 VF:17.50 XF:35.00 UNC:110.00 BU:250.00 --------------------- 1934 New Zealand Shilling KM# 3 Shilling 1933-1935 0.5 Silver 0.0908 oz. ASW Obv: Crowned bust left Rev: Crouched Maori warrior left Composition Silver Fineness 0.5 Weight 5.65 g 0.0908 oz ASW Diameter 23.62 mm Designer Obverse Percy Metcalfe Designer Reverse G.E. Kruger-Gray 1934 Mintage: 3,400,000 F:1.50 VF:10.00 XF:25.00 UNC:110.00 BU:225.00 --------------------------- 1935 Palestine 20 mils KM# 5 20 Mils 1927-1941 Copper-Nickel Obv: Wreath around center hole with dates below Rev: Value above and below center hole 1935 Mintage: 575,000 F:5.00 VF:15.00 XF:50.00 UNC:300.00 -------------------------- Nice ones!  |
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12/12/2008 09:23 am
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Grandpa ruled! They usually do Yours sure gave you a gold mine! 1941 New Zealand Shilling KM# 9 Shilling 1937-1946 0.5 Silver 0.0908 oz. ASW Obv: Head left Rev: Crouched Maori warrior left Composition Silver Fineness 0.5 Weight 2.83 g 0.0455 oz ASW Diameter 19.3 mm Designer Obverse T.H. Paget Designer Reverse G.E. Kruger-Gray 1941 Mintage: 440,000 F:2.00 VF:35.00 XF:120.00 UNC:250.00 BU:475.00  -------------------------------- 1934 New Zealand 6 pence KM# 2 6 Pence 1933-1936 0.5 Silver 0.0455 oz. ASW Obv: Crowned bust left Rev: Huia bird sitting on branch Composition Silver Fineness 0.5 Weight 2.83 g 0.0455 oz ASW Diameter 19.3 mm Description Obverse Crowned bust left Description Reverse Huia bird sitting on branch Designer Obverse Percy Metcalfe Designer Reverse G.E. Kruger-Gray 1934 Mintage: 3,600,000 F:1.00 VF:8.00 XF:25.00 UNC:60.00 BU:100.00 --------------------------------- 1933 New Zealand 3 pence KM# 1 3 Pence 1933-1936 0.5 Silver Subject: Crossed Patu Obv: Crowned bust left Rev: Crossed patu flanked by value and date 1933 Mintage: 6,000,000 F:1.00 VF:3.00 XF:10.00 UNC:20.00 BU:40.00 |
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1941 New Zealand Shilling
KM# 9 Shilling 1937-1946 0.5 Silver 0.0908 oz. ASW
Obv: Head left Rev: Crouched Maori warrior left
Composition Silver
Fineness 0.5
Weight 2.83 g 0.0455 oz ASW
Diameter 19.3 mm
Designer Obverse T.H. Paget
Designer Reverse G.E. Kruger-Gray
1941 Mintage: 440,000 F:2.00 VF:35.00 XF:120.00 UNC:250.00 BU:475.00
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!!! Forget the Canadian Penny xshift, you're getting a Canadian 5 cents!
Do you think I could pull an UNC out of that '41?
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12/12/2008 10:07 am
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 believe me, I have this wild urge to holler "BU!" at the top of my voice.. I am definitely NOT qualified to grade world coinage.. they all have different standards and what high points to look at for wear (and what qualifies as wear). However, you could carefully take it out of the 2x2 (use gloves! over a pillow!) and get some close-ups without the interfering plastic.. and put them over in the grading forum. You'll get expert opinions in there..  |
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Judging from the portrait on your '41 Shilling, I'd say that's better than EF, so it's give it a solid aUNC. Also, since Krause prices are way off on Aus coins, it might be the same for NZ. |
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Hi MrRick...you have some very nice coins. If you want to do your own looking up and such, try https://www.(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed You will need to be able to identify the country first, then the denomination and year. I find it to be a very helpful site and make sure to note the KM# or Y# on the 2x2. You can use that number and make an educated guess at the condition, and then look up the value at the top of the page where it lists all the coins and denominations by country. Good luck! |
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MrRick- You certainly have a wonderful collection of coins from New Zealand there. Congrads!
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Wow! I'd say the 41 shilling is Unc, a few bag marks but no wear that I can see, I'd like to see it under a loupe.
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I was curious why the NZ coins seem to be higher priced than most other World coins? Because they have cool designs or more people collect them or both?
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A lot of it is demand vs. availability. Like with the 41 shilling, there were only 440,000 minted. The coins are popular, so there aren't enough to go around.. price increases. Some low mintage coins are dirt cheap simply because they've been overlooked or nobody likes to collect them. If I remember correctly, in that KM (KM# 9 Shilling 1937-1946) the 1941 has the 2nd lowest mintage. There's only one other year in that KM where they minted fewer coins. Prices were comparable to the '41, with the rest much less in price and higher mintages. Some of it can just be plain hype.. like when everyone goes bananas over a certain coin.. press releases, "experts wild-eyed with disbelief!" headlines, etc.. creates an unrealistic market for a coin that is as normal as the next. Sometimes it is perpetuated down through history, too. I can't recall off the top of my head which one it is, but I know there's at least one specific example for this in US coinage. If I find the brain cell that houses that info (if it hasn't wandered off), I'll post back  |
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Samperbob - "The last coin pictured is very interesting WWI "Kriegsgeld" which means literally War Money. Looks like Iron and the shape is nice. It was issued by the Rhineland and it is number 2-2 in Upton's Emergency Coinage of Germany. Value is listed at 25 cents but the history is worth more.
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Having that piece valued at 25 cents is insanity. I mean who would be sitting around saying, "I need 25 cents & this 1917 German "coin" is taking up too much room!"?
I think if the going rate is 25 cents, I'll keep mine :)
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Guess I'm a harsh grader  Here's my NZ Florin...I'm thinking VF, although Rick thinks better of it Got this one for $8, check out what Krause says...  |
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All Australian 1925 shillings were struck with 1925/3 overdate dies. In 1923, no shillings were produced, but dies had been prepared in anticipation of orders that never came. So, the mint took the attitude of "waste not, want not" and retooled the 1923s for 1925. I assume they didn't do it in 1924 because a 1924/3 overdate would have been harder to hide I'm not 100% on this, but if I remember the story right, the 1924 dies were already prepared for 1924, so the first chance the mint had to 're-use' the 1923 dies, was in 1925... Also, I'm curious as to the full list of what German Stuff is in this album... The WW1 era Kriegsgeld is pretty cool... :) |
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