1943 LWC Steel - Need Identification Of Error Bumps

Hope this helps because I still need to identify the errors.

We sell a line of "product" coins that require absolute clean Steel pennies to create and we have the correct Jeweler equipment to do it. We always screen the ones we get in.

These came from a very reputable dealer on ebay I get all my Steels from and I get them by 1,000 coins per order.

Unfortunatly as it were, I was sick and my assistant cleaned a few hundred of these using our method. My bad because I didnt mark them unsorted. It does leave Steels super shiny, unscratched or damaged furthur.

I can gaurentee these pennies are not re-plated. We do not use electric nor re-plate them. They were in natural circulated condition when we got them.

Yes, bad they got cleaned. Still leaves me with pennies that have these errors that I cannot identify.

Again, I hope that info helps so we can rule out "condition". Hence why I'm baffled about the errors. They had to be there before the Mint Zinc Plated them. I personally am still leaning on bad planchets.

Thank you for all your help!

I do understand how you can see these in the photos as re-plated. I am surprised that I need to goto great lengths to prove these are not re-plated. But there are many that I am sure are not honest about what they have.

But as I mentioned in my prior posts, I bought these as natural circulated condition Steel Pennies. They came as blackend and dirty coins as you would expect from anyone selling .20 cent uncleaned steelies. That is what I start with. Specifically buying uncleaned steels.

We clean them in our shop to make them look the way they do. They are first soaked in lemon juice and salt. After that they get another process and a final high sheen polish.

I guess I have to agree that maybe we are not removing all of the actual Zinc plating from the Coin. These coins do not rust. We have bags sitting around for months with no rust. Maybe I need more education?

I started this post agreeing they were modified because we did it. The question was how were these bumps created?

I assure all that these errors on these pennies had to be there way before the zinc turned black.

I just took this picture of steels from this entire 1,000 batch in question that some have these errors. They were only cleaned in lemon juice and salt and some you can see the salt deposit still on them. They have been on the shelf for 8 days now. No rust. Does this mean there is still a layer of Zinc left?

Thank you.

I did get an email back from a so called expert on error coins. He has a interesting view that I didnt think about.

"Because the imprint of the coin image is over the bumps....and on one photo of the 9, you can see the clash, I believe there`s only one possibility. The Metal Coil was defective before the blanking process. This added the extra metal or bumps as viewed."

His exact words. Got any ideas on that?

I`m not sayin it. But yes, he`s implying that the actual raw metal coil was defective before the blanks were punched.

Maybe a isolated calamity of a broken part got on the production line of the metal coil band?

That still doesn't explain how I'm seeing so many in a 1,000 random coin purchase. This was brought up earlier and I agree.

UPDATE: Now that I thjnk more about this....arent the metal coils used for blanking pressed steel? You would think that those impressions/bumps wouldnt survive the heat and pressing to make the coils?

My guess would be something went wrong in the batch the "assistant" reprocessed.

Could these have purposely "faulted" to show they are not the originals? Just asking..

My friend Sara, a collector, took a peak at these. She beleives they are "over struck" pennies and sent me this example pick. She has no idea what they were over struck with and also has never seen this before. Anyone agree this is close?