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Counterfeit Detection: German State Schwarzburg-Sondershausen 2 Thalers

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NGC - Two fakes bear identical imperfections but different dates.

Recently, Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC) graders identified an interesting pair of fakes. The 2-thaler specimens from the German state of Schwarzburg-Sondershausen were submitted together and are virtually identical.

These two counterfeits were struck from transfer dies. In this process, a genuine coin is used as a model for the dies. Therefore, all the pieces struck from these dies display the same imperfections (circulation marks, wear, etc.) as the host coin. These characteristics are easy to see when you compare the examples side by side.

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Counterfeit-Detection:-German-State-Schwarzburg-Sondershausen-2-Thalers
Obverse diagnostics: Identical depressions can be seen on the counterfeits in front of and on the forehead, on the ear and on the jaw.

As you can see from the photos shown here, numerous depressions appear on both coins. While they seem to be contact marks, it's statistically impossible to have the same damage in the same places on two coins.

Counterfeit-Detection:-German-State-Schwarzburg-Sondershausen-2-Thalers
Counterfeit-Detection:-German-State-Schwarzburg-Sondershausen-2-Thalers
Reverse repetition: Small incuse lines can be seen in and around the lower right quadrant of the coat of arms, notably below the point of the shield; in the bottom right corner of the checkered pattern; and above the left side of the "M."

What makes these fakes even more interesting and unusual, however, are the reverses. Although the designs and imperfections are carbon copies, the dates are different—1841 and 1845! It is clear the counterfeiter skillfully altered the last digit of the date on a pair of dies created from the same genuine host. Nevertheless, the surfaces and overall feel of the coins were not quite right and tipped off the authenticators.

As counterfeiters gain access to more powerful technologies, such as three-dimensional scanning and printing, the numismatic marketplace likely will continue to be inundated with high-quality fakes. As numismatists, we must be ever vigilant and protect the hobby against the threat posed by this new generation of counterfeits.

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So convincing!
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What aroused the authenticators' suspicions in the first place was
a combination of experience, and the fact that they examined in hand with the assistance of a 10x loupe, under ideal lighting conditions, as all professional Third Party Graders should do.
Further examination and investigation has arisen from this.

I just like to copy TPG examination techniques before deciding to buy any significantly valuable coin for myself.

My experience not as good as TPGraders, and I admit that in this case the possibility that
I could have missed either counterfeit examined as an individual coin only. The pair in this case confirms counterfeit, although in some cases, minor die damage can be reproduced over a number of coins.
Always good to refer to a counterfeit data base, if one exists for a particular coin in question.

For 'belts and braces', I also like to refer questionable coins to a highly respected professional coin dealer acquaintance of many decades. That gets me 'up to equivalent speed' with the TPGraders.
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