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I guess it's now time for a listing of 1310s dates...
1319 - Spence
1318 - Grinya (718 AH = Mar 1318-Feb 1319)
1317 - Grinya (717 AH = Mar 1317-Mar 1318)
1316-14 - none yet (would be 716 to 714 AH)
1313 - Grinya (713 AH = Apr 1313-Apr 1314)
1312 - none yet (would be 712 AH)
1311 - Spence
1310 - Grinya (710 AH = May 1310-May 1311)
Of course there's been a lot of awesome coins from people other than Spence and Grinya as well! They just didn't happen to be particularly narrowly dated.
For the next decade (1300s) we'd need to figure out how to convert AH dates to AD dates (again). Hopefully it would (again) be covered by an otherwise narrowly dated coin in the exact right spot!
For the 1310s, however, the conversion is stable - the AH year X starts, and has its largest part in, the AD year X+600.
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I think my last coin for the decade: Ilkhanate Fals of Abu Sa'id, Bayburt mint. It was minted at 1316-1335 and found in Crimea about 700 years after  |
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Another good summary @j1m--glad you are doing these! Let's have a last call on this decade and drop back starting tomorrow am. I'm pretty sure that I will have another decade with no coins datable to a single year.
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My earliest dateable coins were in the 1320's. I will try to post some date range coins maybe one of each type since there were so many types in the 1100's especially.
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Like @Eddie, I think I am done with anything attributable to a single year. This double denier from the Duchy of Lorraine minted by Duke Theobald II is of similar design to the one I posted last decade. In this case the date range is just under the limit, 1303-1312. Flon #2, 391 and Numista #107668. For those with an interest in medieval coin designs, I think this design was initiated in the County of Hainaut by Margaret of Constantinople, starting with a double esterlin (2/3 groat) of 1269 (Numista #314744). Maybe there was something earlier in the crusader states? It was copied elsewhere in the Low Countries and Lorraine on various denominations.   Obv: Knight galloping right. T DVX LOTOREGIE Rev: Sword flanked by two alerions. MONETA DE NANCEI Edited by tdziemia
01/31/2022 10:32 am
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Yes, there are no so many datable coins in this decade... This is a Golden Horde Pul with "Solar symbol" temp. Toqta khan, Qrim mint dated 708 AH.    Edited by Grinya
01/31/2022 11:12 am
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Most of the datable coins I have from now on are dependent on the monarch dying quickly. This one didn't. Öljaitü was a descendent of Genghis Khan. Although they were Mongols, the Ilkhanids ruled over Iran (which means technically, you can't sell these on ebay!). Öljeitü Fals, AH703-717 (AD1303-1318)
Ilkhanate. Bronze, 23mm, 2.6g. Sun-face with eight rays within square. Legends citing Muhammad Khudabanda and title al-Sultan al-Azam (Mitchiner 1620).Edited by JohnConduitt
01/31/2022 1:33 pm
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dependent on the monarch dying quickly. Yikes! Here is a Grospfennig from the German Archbishopric of Cologne. It was minted on behalf of Heinrich II von Virenburg somewhere in the range of 1304 (when he became Archbishop) to his death at the ripe old age of 87 in 1332 AD. The obv inscription is HENR' ARCH LIEPS COL while the rev inscription is SIGNECCE SLICASS II BVNEN. It is attributed as Noss 21ff. In some descriptions of this coin, the date is skewed toward the later part of his "rule", but I'm not sure that we know exact dates.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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This is a Denar from the German Duchy of Brandenburg that is datable to the range 1305 to 1319 AD. It is a pretty simple design, with the prince with outstretched arms and a pair of lilies above his arms and a pair of eagle heads below his arms. The rev legend is WO LD EM AR. I have attributed it as Bahrfeldt 577 and Dannenberg 195.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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I like that Cologne weisspfennig! Not sure how to translate the entire reverse legend, but BVNEN would be short for BUNENSIS, meaning the coin was struck at the Bonn mint. This is interesting because in the late 1280s there are cois struck in Bonn in the name of John, Duke of Brabant. This "Prager groschen" from the Kingdom of Bohemia is my most narrowly dated coin of the decade, 1300-1305. I don't intentionally collect Bohemia, but Wenceslas II was both King of Bohemia and King of Poland during these years, and as no coins were struck at Polish mints, this is what I have in my Poland OFER collection for this reign. Numista #81396   Obv: Short cross. (from inside to outside) WENCEZLAVS SECONDVS / DEI GRATIA REX BOEMIE Rev: Crowned lion. GROSSI PRAGENSES |
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Love the lion tail on that Praggroschen @tdz! Here is a uniface Pfennig from Austria that was issued by King Friedrich "The Handsome". The only design element is a squirrel facing right. It was minted between 1308 and 1330 AD and I have attributed as Szego 132.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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An equally simple design on this bracteate from the Kingdom of Poland under Wladyslaw I that can be dated to 1306-1320. Sandomierz mint. Kopicki 311, Numista #247099  |
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Nice one @tdz! Here is my last coin to post for this decade: a Denier from the French Duchy of Burgundy. It is datable to the range 1305/6 to 1315 AD. It was minted in Dijon on behalf of Hugo V. The obv legend is VGO BVRGVNDIE DVX while the rev legend is DIV ION EN SIS. I have attributed it as Roberts 5784. Oddly, I've got a pair of these, but the pics below are from the first one that I picked up.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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I have only one more coin from this decade that despite bad conditions may be attributed to a single date - this is a "Sun-face type" pul from Qrim mint 707AH.   |
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Interesting coins. The name 'bracteate' is confusing (being jewellery) but also strangely appropriate for those coins. Quote:
This is a "Sun-face type" pul from Qrim mint 707AH. I wonder how these are dated? I also have a Sun-face pul from the Solkhat/Qrim mint, but it's dated a decade or two earlier. |
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