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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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 Posted 02/14/2022  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know anything about Republic of Venice coins, but it's good to see what was being used when St Mark's first looked the way it does now.

That gros tournois looks like it was made yesterday. I don't think I've seen a much better Alexander III either.

I'll follow Grinya's Toqtu Khan dang with a similar one from his predecessor. Note the tamga in the middle has a slightly different arrangement of goalposts, which tells you it's a different 'house'. It's dated to 686AH, which seems to be almost all in 1287.

Töle Buqa Dang, 686AH/AD1287
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Qrim. Silver, 20mm, 1.5g. Tamgha in hexagram. Töle Buqa / Qrim Mint / 686 (Album 2022.2; Sagdeeva 44).
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@JohnConduitt, I also have this type:))


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Twins! Thx for the kind words about that Scottish Penny @john. I probably overshot a bit on the condition compared to most of my minor silvers!

Here is a Denar from the German City State of Brandenberg that is datable to the range 1280 to 1293 AD. The obv legend is OTTO MARCHIO. The rev has some nice clovers to compare with @tdz's recently-posted coin of Brabant. I have attributed it as Bonhoff 815 and Bahrfeld 192.

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I also have this type:))

I shouldn't play you at snap

Here's another similar dang, this time from the predecessor of the previous predecessor. It has yet another style of tamga (if you look closely). There is a dated version, but this one is undated.

Tuda Mengu Dang, 1283-1287
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Qrim. Silver, 22mm, 1.9g. Batu's tamga (in triangle); Coin of Qrim (outside triangle). Silver / legitimate / the just (in segments) Tuda Mengu (in square) (Sagdeeva 40; Album 2021.1).


I should also give this Zeno reference (270295), as it is this coin https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=270295
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Speaking of the Holy Roman Empire Duchy of Brabant, here is a Pfennig datable to 1282 to 1292 AD. It was issued by Johann I. The obv inscription is X I DVX, while the rev inscription is L O V A. As I recall I purchased primarily for that cool A letterform. It is attributed as van der Chijs 5.2.

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My coin of Tuda Mengu Khan, Qrim mint, 683AH Sagdeeva# 39

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Lots of very nice coins this decade. I was definitely expecting to see a gros tournois, and that was a beauty. Also like those sharp dated coins from Asia!
I will go back to northern Europe with this denier from the Lordship of Neufchateau (Lorraine), datable to 1281-1303. Boudeau 1453 and Numista #92381
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I was definitely expecting to see a gros tournois, and that was a beauty.


Well, here is one that definitely isn't as nice. I believe that this French Gros Tournois is datable to 1285 AD. The obv inscription is BNDICTV SIT NOME DNI NRI DEI IhV XPI and PHILIPPVS REX while the rev inscription is TVRONVS CIVIS. I have attributed it as Roberts 2461a and Duplessy 213.

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My coin of Tuda Mengu Khan, Qrim mint, 683AH Sagdeeva# 39
That is a great coin.

This is the nearest I get to a medieval French coin...

Charles II the Lame of Anjou Denier Tournois
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Clarencia. Billon, 18mm, 0.7g. Cross, +.K. R. PRINC ACH. Castle, :DE: CLARENTIA: (Metcalf 942).
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Golden Horde Anepigraphic dirham - Ornamental type (Bulghar mint) (1280-1310)

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Here is a Denier from the Crusader State of The Duchy of Athens that is datable to the range 1280 to 1294 AD. The obc inscription is + G DVC ATENES while the rev inscription is ThEBE CIVIS. I have attributed it as CCS 86.

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One more Golden Horde Anepigraphic dirham - Ornamental type (Bulghar mint) (1280-1310) Sagdeeva# 102 (previous was #101)

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Here are a couple Cornados from Castile and Leon, Spain that will round out my collection of coins dating from this decade. This first one was minted in Leon under the authority of King Sancho IV. The obv legend is SANCTI REX while the rev legend is CASTELLE LEGIONS and L* for a mintmark. I attributed it as C&C 1133.

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The second one was minted in Toledo Leon under the authority of King Sancho IV. The obv legend is SANCTI:REX while the rev legend is CASTELLE LEGIONIS and *.T.* for a mintmark. I attributed it as C&C 1137.

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Nice pair of "Spanish" coins.

My last for this decade is my saluto d'argento from the Kingdom of Naples, which I think has a date range 1285-1302, Biaggi 1629.
Referring to a brief discussion upthread about the earliest monarch to "number" themselves on a coin, I'll point out that the obverse legend begins KAROL' SCD' for Charles II.
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Some kind of lucky coin from Golden Horde which may be dated 1280-1287.
Arabic inscription may be translated like: "May your prosperity be eternal"
Qrim mint

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