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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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Anything else for this decade? Let's have a last call this evening before dropping back to the decade of the 1050s starting tomorrow.
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A brief appearance from me.

Edward the Confessor Expanding Cross Heavy Issue Penny, 1050-1053
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London. Silver, 1.71g. Diademed and draped bust left, trefoil-tipped sceptre before; + EDŽE: •RD REX :. Expanding cross; + L•EOFRED ON LVNDENE (S 1177).
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Yikes that Penny is an absolute beauty @john! The detail is amazing.

Only one coin for me from this decade: a Follis from the Byzantine Empire. It was minted in Constantinople between 1059 and 1067 AD. The obv legend is EMMA NOVHA while the rev legend is +KWN + Δ K EVΔ KAYΓO. I have attributed it as SBV 1853.

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I agree that penny is stunning. I assume that is one of the centerpieces of your collection?

I've got only this homely Polish denar of Boleslaw II. I sometime see this coin attributed narrowly to an emission of the 1070s, but equally often just broadly to his entire reign, 1058-1080.
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Obverse legend BOLEZLAVS

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That is a cool one @tdz. I haven't seen an A letterform like that previously!
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Ok last call for this decade. Starting tomorrow am we can drop back to coins minted starting in the 1040s.
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This will not move the thread.


1046-60 Hungarian Denar under King Andreas I;Huszar 9,Unger 5,CAC Vol. I/4.4/a9.1/81. It has a sigla of two points in each of the quadrants of the inner circle and one point under "REX". It is the only sigla variation I have out of 250.

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I also only have one coin to post for this decade and unfortunately the spread is more than 10 years just like that one posted by @ed. I'm quite sure that the 1040s are my first decade hole.

This Pfennig from Hungary was minted between 1046 and 1060 AD. The obv legend is +REX ANDREAS and the rev legend is slightly degraded, but reads something like +RE7IACIVITVS. I have attributed it as Frynas H.4.1 and Huszar 8.


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The type of coin I posted is the first type of Hungarian coins with a sigla. If there is a way to find out what the purpose was it would be in this time frame. I think it was a control mechanism and a precursor to mint marks.
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OK I don't have my own pic of this yet because I just bought it today but here goes.

Edward the Confessor
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1046 - 1048, London (Goltsige), 18.3mm, 1.16g, North 817, Seaby 1174.

OBV: +EDPER - DR(EX?), diademed and draped bust left, sceptre before.
REV: + GOLTSGE ON LVND, short voided cross within, a quadrilateral with three dots at the ends and one at the center.

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Edward the Confessor
AR Penny
1042 - 1066, London, 18.3mm, 1.16g, North 817, Seaby 1174.
OBV: +EDPER - DR(EX?), diademed and draped bust left, sceptre before.
REV: + GOLTSGE ON LVND, short voided cross within, a quadrilateral with three dots at the ends and one at the center.

The date range of these is actually a lot narrower than Edward's reign. S 1174 (the Trefoil Quadrilateral type) is dated 1046-1048

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces90235.html

https://www.englishhammered.com/ang...trefoil.html
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OK I don't have my own pic of this yet because I just bought it today

Likewise for this one, won at an auction last Thursday.


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The date range of these is actually a lot narrower ... 1046-1048


Because mine will not move us back.
Denar of the Bishopric of Utrecht under Bishop Bernold, Groningen mint, Dannenberg 558, dated to 1040-1054.
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Obv: Saint Boniface. SCS BONIV CV...VN (retrograde, starting 11:30)
Rev: CRV ONIN CE in center; degenerate form of BERNOLDVS EPS around.
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Thanks John! Yes the seller had pretty minimal info on their listing. I have already noted alot of attribution info that was missing. I will be sure to update the date when I get it in my collection.

I have edited my post. I guess it will move the thread! :)
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Ok yes that is great news! Let's plan to leave this decade open for another day or two to see if we can get any more additions. Also, I'm glad to hear that you folks are out in the market making purchases! I thought I might be the only one.
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Ok last call on this decade. Starting tomorrow am, let's drop back to the 1030s!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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