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Fake Error Coins Or Real Thing?

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 Posted 08/28/2021  1:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mgalb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Saw this on ebay....can this actually happen like this or is someone altering coins?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255105581936

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/265281521047
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 Posted 08/28/2021  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The off centers may be real errors, the clip is not.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 08/28/2021  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mgalb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought that clip looked too small to be genuine.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The clip is just something that someone did. The diameter of the missing piece is much smaller than the planchet would be, when cut from the sheet. The Lincoln cents look all right, but I'm not an error person.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The off center cents look good, but the clip is not genuine.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the off-center cents look legit, questionable clip (small) on the IHC.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd have to agree that the off-center are legit. And that "clip" is a clip alright but not by the mint or any process that is done by the mint. The diameter look to be the same size as a paper hole punch tool.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fake clip has been reported.
Hopefully it will be removed tomorrow.
Thanks for pointing it out mgalb.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


to the CCF!
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 Posted 08/28/2021  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is possible to make an incuse hub off a real coin in a shed job, but it is hard to do under these conditions, but with simple machine shop skills, can be done.

A book titled 'Numismatic Forgery' by Charles M. Larson, (ISBN 0-9742371-2-4) shows how this can be done,
and some background in how to identify very deceiving numismatic forgeries that are characterized by their method of manufacture.
Having made the above comments the coins in the link appear to be genuine but must be closely examined in hand to be sure.

Clip fakes are easier to forge. Look for the Blakesley Effect, but note this can be faked as well.

Wild off center strikes by from the US Mint during this period (around 1972) are not all that rare. I had a coin dealer friend (Bob Roberts) who used to visit the 'States for business several times during the 1980's, and he bought quite a few similar errors for his inventory, and sold them for $20 each to his Australian customers through his sales brochures. Bob was a contributor and authenticator to earlier editions of Krause World Coins.
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 Posted 08/29/2021  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "clip" coin was removed by ebay
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