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None Of You Will Get This One: 1941 Walking Liberty Half

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 Posted 12/04/2021  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
210$ is not bad and you can get that much of a conservation education out of it.

I think you have a better than 50/50 shot at restoring the coin to some semblance to it's past glory. Playing with some of the spots on the reverse to get an idea if they'll come off is where I'd first start. The dark "turd" on the obverse would be the last thing I'd try to mitigate. I'd go with JewelLuster and a few prayers. Read and follow directions. You just never know with this stuff. You could also pay the "conservation experts" at one of the grading companies to do it for you.

Please keep us updated with what happens with the removal and conservation (if you travel that path).

Good luck with whatever you decide to do with it. Thanks for sharing.

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 Posted 12/04/2021  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Katrina/Harvey theory seems to make sense, but looking at the holder it looks pretty clean. If toxic sludge from flooding did this to the coin, should we expect the holder to look as clean as it does today? Also, isn't the label insert made of paper? If so, the flood damage should have affected the paper, but I see no evidence of water damage anywhere on the fragile paper label.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I should pay more attention as OP revealed that this was in a fire. Even so, it seems odd that the plastic is undamaged and intact but the coin looks like it was rolled on by the ugly stick. No melted bits, trace of soot from smoke, no residue inside the holder other than what is on the coin's surface.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Numismatic: Damage from a fire event isn't always from the fire itself, but from the chemical-laden water that is used to put it out. That's what's happened here -- the holder must have been submersed in the stuff. There's gunk in the seams.

I wasn't there so I can only guess. There's no evidence of liquid in the holder now, but it would not have taken much.
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12/04/2021 08:18 am
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I think the comment about it pulling a PR69 was meant to be a joke.


thanks Zurie, I thought that was the posted grade

i would call this PFU (ugly proof). can it be preserved? I guess pristine has to decide that but I'm betting if its left like this the future is not bright for it
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