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I looked on Cuds on coins and could not find this listed.    Edited by gsp193
12/31/2021 01:21 am
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While the edge of the die may have the tiniest chip out of it, I feel much more comfortable calling this a die crack rather than a Cud. As it extend into Abe's head, yes I'd call it a spikehead. If the consensus here is that it is a Cud, then you should consider submitting it to the COC website as a discovery piece. Either way, I'd save it in a 2x2 for protection. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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I'm seeing a nice die crack. Good find.
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I'm in the spiked head style die crack with an associated chip at/or near/or even touching the rim group.
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COC lists spike heads also.
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Nice spike head!  |
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But to me it is just a die chip and die crack. (Die events)
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12/31/2021 3:34 pm
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Congrats! It's an error and sought after by some collectors. Check ebay for spike head listings. |
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I will answer for educational purpose: @gsp193 = The site for the Cuds it is a good reference. The Cud 's could happened in any part for all the years. due to the fact it is the DIE category, could have a bigger or small population which it is relative with the time when the die was change. @mb560600 = you mention the word ERROR which in this case is false. Error are only in the category of 1. planchet and 2. striking Cud and die chip are in the category of Die varieties. |
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Silviosi, Happy New Year! However, I respectfully disagree with your assertion that this spike head die crack is not an error. It is, in fact, a "die error."
Cuds-on Coins specifically includes spike heads as a "die error" category.
And Errors and Varieties also refers to die cracks as an "error." On varietyerrors.com, the authors state, "Errors can be the result of defective planchets, defective dies or the result of mistakes made during the striking." That would include spike head die cracks.
Also, some errors can occur on numerous coins, thus being classified as a variety. However, the coins are still "errors" by definition.
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Nice open topic MB560600. I thing you go by folks thinking's. Errors like I say before are those which happening sporadic, isolate due to different factors. Those are Planchet and Striking. the varieties by definition are those due to the die and those has a big number of repetitions. You go by the word error which it is more and more most valuable for those who want fast big money. I am sorry I do not stand for those from Etsy or ebay who behind the words want to abuse theirs customs. |
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Silviosi, my point was simply that spike heads ARE ERROR coins. Cuds on Coins provides a significant part of it's website documenting such errors. Your efforts at educating folks about spike heads--which are a popular collectible-- was misleading and inaccurate. Whether spike heads are worth a premium, large or small, is a whole different topic. I collect them but I am not one looking to sell them for "fast big money." Obviously some collectors may be willing to pay a premium---especially for one in mint state condition. Why criticize anyone who buys them...or sells them? That's just a part of the hobby, isn't it? IMHO. |
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You misunderstand me. I say the Cud and spike are not errors but variety. POINT. Then I specified that many for purpose of gain post like at error.. SPIKE HEADS are not errors by numismatic agreed term. Those go in the category of DIE which are variety. POINT. |
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