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Silver Eagles, Are They Coins?

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 Posted 01/29/2009  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Absolutely correct! However, if the business does accept U.S. coins and currency as payment, then they will have to take your American Silver Eagle, $2 bill, Eisenhower dollar, etc. etc.

Since there is no law mandating its acceptance the business could made such a decision on a case by case basis. The fact that they had accepted cash previously has no bearing on the matter UNLESS they have a sign posted that they accept cash or legal tender.

As for being owed a debt and then refusing legal tender, that does not wipe out the debt, you still owe it, but since you have made what is in the eyes of the law a legal attempt to settle the debt, they can not sue you for non-payment or add on interest or penalties.
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Cash or legal tender? The only 'legal tender' in the U.S. is U.S. coins and currency, which is 'cash'.

What Conder101 is saying is that the businesses that accept 'cash' (which is legal tender coins and currency) can refuse to tender the A.S.E.'s, but in doing so they are refusing to accept a valid form of legal tender payment and as he said: "...since you have made what is in the eyes of the law a legal attempt to settle the debt, they can not sue you for non-payment or add on interest or penalties."

So to be correct, I will add: "...they will have to take your American Silver Eagle, $2 bill, Eisenhower dollar, etc. etc. if they wish to collect payment for their goods or services."

Hey, if a business wants to end up giving me something for free (via an 'uncollectible' debt) just because they don't want to take uncommon forms of legal tender, that would be fine with me!

A business could post a sign stating that they do not take American Silver Eagles ($2 bills, Ikes, etc.), or show the customer a written policy to that effect. Having such a policy in effect before someone offers them in payment proves that a refusal to accept that variation of legal tender is not 'arbitrary'.

This is why my local pizza take-out restaurant posts a sign that they do not take $100 bills. The business should state in advance that they do not accept the specific variation(s) of legal tender, to cover themselves.
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A coin is a coin is a coin. What should the goverment change the ASE coin to? Medal, Token? It's already a coin so I don't see why to argue about it.

Accepted cash doesn't have anything to do with it being a coin.

Legal tender doesn't have anything to do with it being a coin.

A coin is a coin!
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Since none of the Moderators have moved this from the Modern US Coin Forum to the Token, Medal, and other Exonumia Forum does this mean case closed? A coin is a coin.

It's in the right spot
"All Bullion Eagles" falls under the category of Main Coin Forum


That is until Bobby decides to rearrange the forum again and have 37 subcategories

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Cash or legal tender? The only 'legal tender' in the U.S. is U.S. coins and currency, which is 'cash'.

I worded it that way because such a sign could say "We accept Cash" or it could say "We accept legal tender". And they would then have to accept it. I did not mean to imply a sign that said "We accept cash or legal tender". My fault for not being clear.
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