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Pillar of the Community
United States
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  Smack dab in the middle of an OBW roll. Is this PM damage?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Weight? It looks light just looking at the weakness of the strike.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Weight? It looks light just looking at the weakness of the strike. Sorry coop I didn't think that far ahead. I don't even have one of those scales yet (will get on pronto). I guess I was thinking it got hung in the process and maybe someone has seen this before. Or I don't know what I was thinking I guess 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Will be interesting to learn the weight.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I will like to see closer the black circles and the side of the coin where it is the red circle, please. 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2000 Posts |
Obverse strike appears weak in those areas, maybe thin planchet or lamination that fell off before the strike. Weight would definitely help in determination
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Weight? It looks light just looking at the weakness of the strike.  This is not a LSD/VLDS die pairing. It looks like generic MDS dies. The extreme metal flow on the obverse at IN GOD and diagonally opposite at the date area suggests an underweight planchet. There are also weak rims in these two areas of the obverse. If this was a struck-through error, I would expect much greater weakness on LIBERTY than just a slightly weak "LI." Just a hunch, but there may have been extra metal on what eventually became the reverse, and it may have been dislodged during the upsetting mill process. That could explain both an underweight planchet and the weak rims. The metal flow would also be a logical result of an underweight planchet. Just a guess, and I have no real confidence in this guess. I'm tossing it out for discussion. EDIT: I can't think of anything post-mint that could explain the weak strike at the top of the wheat stalks.
Edited by fortcollins 02/05/2022 3:06 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Damaged planchet. You can see weakness in the strike of the obverse where the damage on the reverse is.
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Pillar of the Community
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  Sorry guys hope this helps a little. It's seems to weigh 3.1 grams but scale is not super accurate
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thanks "Grospoisson". This I want, if the rim side is crack change a little bit. It is clear detached crystalline structure due to the improper annealing of the main bloom (the bar who is roll for the blank coins) before rolling. The parts detached in the moment of the blank cutting. If you has the side crack are mean you has a combination of foliation and crack planchet. how you guys give the name do not matter for me because you go by the market acceptances.
Edited by silviosi 02/05/2022 7:05 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Thanks "Grospoisson". This I want, if the rim side is crack change a little bit. It is clear detached crystalline structure due to the improper annealing of the main bloom (the bar who is roll for the blank coins) before rolling. The parts detached in the moment of the blank cutting. If you has the side crack are mean you has a combination of foliation and crack planchet. how you guys give the name do not matter for me because you go by the market acceptances. Hey, my new forum friend, is that something you or anyone out there collects. I don't quite understand it yet but I know for sure it's something I don't want. Free of charge.
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Quote: Obverse strike appears weak in those areas, maybe thin planchet or lamination that fell off before the strike. Weight would definitely help in determination I can agree with this observation.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Absolutely agree with FortCollins. New images seem to show some loss due to delamination. The weakness of the obv details near the rims (K9-K10 and K2-K3) is a result of missing metal on the rev. Not enough metal to completely fill the obv devices in these areas.
If this planchet was slightly tapered on both sides, which the images seem to show, that might explain the weakness at the tops of the wheat ears.
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