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While looking through a bucket of nickels I noticed this 1941 with a "gun metal" complextion. I soaked it in acetone and in xylene and also worked it carefully with a Q-tip, with no change. The reverse does not seem to be quite as consistent as the obverse, the color patches are virtually the same color as an old circulated Lincoln Cent. So, I've photographed it along side a typical 1941 from the same bucket with the same amount of wear. Is this a so-called Black Beauty?   Edited by EDM
02/05/2022 1:11 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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true BBs are tougher to distinguish after they're worn, I suspect this one is environmental toning, but I'm not completely sure
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Revere rim on top: Note the peeling edge. It is a coating on the coin, not a Black beauty. On a black beauty, doesn't rub off. The metal is now that color.
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Coop, when I move the coin around in the light that rim glimmer completely disappears. In hand it seems to be light refracting on the edge similar to the rim below the Jefferson bust on the obverse. Moving it around there is no actual color change in the metal. The edge of the coin is the same consistent gun metal color without any variation due to wear or scratches.
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02/05/2022 1:13 pm
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Rest in Peace
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No that is not a B/B . Looks like environment damage .  |
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Looks like ED to me as well.
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Pillar of the Community
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Talking about black beauties (ie. annealing errors) on a worn coin is pretty much pointless. Unless you have the original surfaces to look at, there's pretty much nothing you can say.
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@Sam. If was a really BB, has the point. Coop was right when say is peeled. So it is a imitation. the really B/B is form primary in the melting alloy. some how the alloy is not mixt correct and a layout of carbon is form. This layout which it is inside the bloom, will be rolled and can come to the surface. I want to mention this C layout is connected with all crystalline structure of the alloy and is not dense enough to broke during the rolling, blank cut where the material has to support exterior forces.
the effect come from the annealing, in this case 450 deg. which will make the carbonic surface to become blue black dark petrol. It is not black saturation the color.
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This coin is blue-black (gun metal-gun bluing). I can detect no "peeling" anywhere on the coin, the scratches and dings do not reveal a different color. Only the bronze area on the reverse like the color of a well circulated bronze cent of that era. As I mentioned, I soaked the coin in acetone and in xylene and a BU clean with Q tip without a change. Perhaps someone used a torch on it to resemble a BB. Perhaps that's all that these so-called Black Beautys are.
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Talking about black beauties (ie. annealing errors) on a worn coin is pretty much pointless. Unless you have the original surfaces to look at, there's pretty much nothing you can say. I totally agree with SamCoin |
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