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1956 Lincoln Error Not Sure What The Heck Is It?

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Smack dab in the middle of an OBW roll. Is this PM damage?
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Weight? It looks light just looking at the weakness of the strike.
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Weight? It looks light just looking at the weakness of the strike.


Sorry coop I didn't think that far ahead. I don't even have one of those scales yet (will get on pronto). I guess I was thinking it got hung in the process and maybe someone has seen this before. Or I don't know what I was thinking I guess
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Will be interesting to learn the weight.
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I will like to see closer the black circles and the side of the coin where it is the red circle, please.


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Obverse strike appears weak in those areas, maybe thin planchet or lamination that fell off before the strike. Weight would definitely help in determination
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Weight? It looks light just looking at the weakness of the strike.



This is not a LSD/VLDS die pairing. It looks like generic MDS dies. The extreme metal flow on the obverse at IN GOD and diagonally opposite at the date area suggests an underweight planchet. There are also weak rims in these two areas of the obverse. If this was a struck-through error, I would expect much greater weakness on LIBERTY than just a slightly weak "LI."

Just a hunch, but there may have been extra metal on what eventually became the reverse, and it may have been dislodged during the upsetting mill process. That could explain both an underweight planchet and the weak rims. The metal flow would also be a logical result of an underweight planchet.

Just a guess, and I have no real confidence in this guess. I'm tossing it out for discussion.

EDIT: I can't think of anything post-mint that could explain the weak strike at the top of the wheat stalks.
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Damaged planchet. You can see weakness in the strike of the obverse where the damage on the reverse is.
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Sorry guys hope this helps a little. It's seems to weigh 3.1 grams but scale is not super accurate
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Thanks "Grospoisson". This I want, if the rim side is crack change a little bit. It is clear detached crystalline structure due to the improper annealing of the main bloom (the bar who is roll for the blank coins) before rolling. The parts detached in the moment of the blank cutting. If you has the side crack are mean you has a combination of foliation and crack planchet. how you guys give the name do not matter for me because you go by the market acceptances.
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Thanks "Grospoisson". This I want, if the rim side is crack change a little bit. It is clear detached crystalline structure due to the improper annealing of the main bloom (the bar who is roll for the blank coins) before rolling. The parts detached in the moment of the blank cutting. If you has the side crack are mean you has a combination of foliation and crack planchet. how you guys give the name do not matter for me because you go by the market acceptances.


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Obverse strike appears weak in those areas, maybe thin planchet or lamination that fell off before the strike. Weight would definitely help in determination


I can agree with this observation.
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Absolutely agree with FortCollins. New images seem to show some loss due to delamination. The weakness of the obv details near the rims (K9-K10 and K2-K3) is a result of missing metal on the rev. Not enough metal to completely fill the obv devices in these areas.


If this planchet was slightly tapered on both sides, which the images seem to show, that might explain the weakness at the tops of the wheat ears.
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