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1845 $1 Liberty Seated Silver Dollar

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 Posted 04/19/2022  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice job!
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 Posted 04/19/2022  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Marvelous result. Will you resubmit? Do you think it would grade problem-free?
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 Posted 04/19/2022  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all your comments. I really have no idea if it would grade straight on a resubmission. I am considering a large submission with other coins but I am unsure of the timing if at all. I think I would incur over $6K in grading and other fees so I am unsure about whether it's worth it to move forward.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 04/19/2022  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice job cleaning the coin looks great
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 Posted 04/19/2022  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic conservation!

The reverse clearly will straight grade. The ballgame is the obverse, and there are three hurdles with the obverse. First, there clearly was an old cleaning. IMHO, that is not enough to detail the coin. Second, there is the area on the shield where the verdigris was removed. That, too, does not look like it would detail the coin. Your conservation really improved the coin here. Third, there is the surface pitting that was beneath the original gunk that previously was removed. It is slightly more evident now. This is the closer question. I don't see anything on the portrait that is sufficient to detail the coin. The only area that gives me any pause is the field surrounding the third, fourth, and fifth stars.

Just wondering here, with two questions that only you can answer:
Do you think you might have a better chance at a straight grade through NGC, rather than sending it back to PCGS?
Would allowing it to re-tone a bit before submitting help the cause?

My original thought was that if you could conserve it, you have a walkoff home run. This is really, really close to that home run. You did well. Even if it doesn't come back with a straight grade, the eye appeal improvement definitely increased the value.
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 Posted 04/19/2022  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly being a Seated Liberty I would think it would straight grade, They may net grade it but I would send to NGC and see what they say. It would be worth it especially if you send multiple coins in to help cover the cost.
Just my thought. Sweet coin.
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 Posted 04/20/2022  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your further thoughts. I'm not sure if it has a better chance to straight grade at NGC. I don't see any color difference that stands out in the conserved area, so I don't believe it is necessary to allow the conserved area to re-tone. For me, PCGS submission is cheaper than NGC by about 9% so I would prefer to submit to PCGS, especially given that I have a large # of coins to submit. If I decide to get them graded - still haven't decided.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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