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1979-P SBA FS-301 First Day Of Issue

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 Posted 06/03/2022  12:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gsp193 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am wondering about when the Wide Rims were actually minted. I purchased this at our local online auction house for $7.00.
I had been wanting a Wide Rim SBA and looking at the pictures I was pretty sure this was one. It also came with the Chic-Fil-A Commemorating Your Right To Vote SBA narrow rim, used for comparison, as a bonus. I had initially thought the wide rim was issued late or at the end of 1979. First released to the public on July 02,1979, minting actually began in 1978 and they were stockpiled until 500 million were minted to keep collectors from hoarding them. Below are three of the articles I gained my information from.

So were some wide rims minted prior to first day of issue? Or is June or July considered late in the year? This first day cover is from the Medalist Cover Society and is postmarked Jul 02 1979 and the SBA Dollar is sealed inside plastic made to the cardboard with all the paperwork/insert.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts or comments when they were struck.

http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page09.html

https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...-dollar.html

https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/...llar-errors/


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 Posted 06/04/2022  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentSation to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd never heard of this variety, but it is a nice keepsake especially with the COA and the narrow-rimmed example included.

Unfortunately, it goes down in infamy as the "Carter Quarter."
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06/04/2022 12:35 am
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 Posted 06/04/2022  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gsp193 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks CentSation! The SBA did not go over well and is still unpopular as ever it seems! lol
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 Posted 06/04/2022  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The postmark is a very innacurate way to determine when this actual coin was minted. The US Postal Service, when issuing first day cancellations, do this over a period of weeks sometimes, just to handle the volume of envelopes coming through. But they all get the same special first day cancellation. This envelopes and stamps were likely submitted to the USPS first, had the first day cancellation applied, and then the coins added at a later date, as it would be very difficult if not impossible to process them through the cancelling machines with coins inside. I don't necessarily believe the stuff on the back of the envelope about the "Director of the Medalist Cover Society" being accurate either.

However, it still is a wide rim, and a nice find!
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 Posted 06/04/2022  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
interesting package as a whole, conversation piece for sure. regardless, you have a nice coin and for a very good price.
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 Posted 06/04/2022  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Wide Rim or near date type was struck later due to design change.Your purchase is a good one and carry's a premium above what you paid for ( a few dollars more )
Here is a referenced article previously published in Coin World .

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Two 1979-P Anthony dollar subtypes
In my "Readers Ask" column in the July 23 issue, I respond to a reader's question about a "Near Date" 1979-P Anthony dollar. The design subtype or variant, the second of two for the year, is more clearly referred to as a "Wide Rim" dollar. The first design of 1979 is called both the "Far Date" and the "Narrow Rim" dollar. After a large number of those dollars were struck leading up to the coin's public release, U.S. Mint officials made the hendecagon rim wider and struck more coins at the Philadelphia Mint.

However, apparently, relatively few of the 1979-P Wide Rim dollars were struck. The Wide Rim dollar is considerably scarcer than the Narrow Rim coin, and auction results bear that out. "A Wide Rim dollar grading Mint State 67 sold for $1,527.50 in an April 2017 Heritage auction; an MS-67 Narrow Rim coin sold for $89 in a January 2017 Heritage auction," I write in the column, available exclusively in the print and digital editions of Coin World
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 Posted 06/04/2022  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gsp193 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone! I appreciate the feedback!
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 Posted 06/04/2022  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gsp193 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Chase007 I posted that article as a reference and is the one that me wonder about the striking date...The part about a large number being struck prior to release then the rim was widened and more were struck T Philly made me wonder if the article meant prior to release, as that is how it sounds. Thanks for checking it out!
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 Posted 06/04/2022  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bumpkin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice examples of both near and far dates as mentioned. I think you "dun" well my friend! Making me want some Chic-Fil-A now!!
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Thanks Bumpkin!
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 Posted 06/04/2022  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too bad about the milk spots on the coin.
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 Posted 06/04/2022  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gsp193 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks coop, the big white spot on the bottom is actually in the plastic and not the coin, and there are small flakes of plastic on it as well.The place behind the bust I am not sure about. On the reverse above and to the right of America there seems to be a small Cud from the last A to the first narrow part on rim. I believe it was struck with a worn Die, the stars are all huge. Thanks for checking it out!
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Those aren't soft flips are they? If they soft ones have PVC issues that alter the coins. The hard flips protect the coin and doesn't turn the coins purple in time in storage. Same for the flexable square tubes. The will alter the color on these rolls. Ok for circulated coins, but BU coin can get altered as well the Hard square/round tubes are better for the BU coins.
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 Posted 06/04/2022  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gsp193 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks coop for the info, it is alot harder than the reg mint cello for sure.
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