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Cent Vs. Penny. The Debate Is Over!

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 Posted 02/15/2009  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My post as you can tell was an attempt at humour

This is a forum family

Personally I don't care what you call your coins.

Maybe you are like a friend of mine who names them just like he names his kids and cars.

As long as you can explain what you are talking about and others can understand your terminology, the forum appreciates positive input.

So excuse me for a while while I go talk to my kids

Pence
Shilling
Florin
Cent
Nugget


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I spoke with my wife this morning over this subject. She believes that the word "cent(s)" on the coin, whether it be a penny, nickel, dime, etc., is a unit of measurement and NOT the name of the coin. It is letting the "user," so to speak, know how many "cents" the coin is WORTH. I disagree with her in that a penny is what we call it and it NOT the real name for the coin because it doesn't have the word "penny" anyplace on it. It says "cent." Her reply is, she's a woman whether the word "woman" is tattooed somewhere on her forehead or otherwise; it's just a known fact.

Bottom line? I guess we all have to agree to disagree. You say tomato and I say tomato (although in print, they look the same!).
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 Posted 02/15/2009  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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it doesn't have the word "penny" anyplace on it


This keeps being put forward as the reason it is not a penny, but it just does not carry any weight.

If it weren't for that darn nickel it might do! (Oops I meant five cents)
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 Posted 02/15/2009  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i dont want to get in the argument but I see QuickSilver's point. The nickel does say 5 cent..
edit: but I guess the same argument could be brought up about the capped bust dime,quarter,half for which they have 10c,25c,50c... and they are called dime quarter and half dollar.. I think there are more pressing issues than whether a small copper colored round stamped one cent is a penny or a cent
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How about anachronism?
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Just a thought, If we of the coin collecting community do not see the proper use of terminology in Numismatics, then as a group are we not sending the wrong message to other's who do not study and discuss coins and currency. I mean to say that don't we as a group become responsible to use the "proper " terminology while discussing coins and such.I have been Hammered many times from the "pro's and experts " for not using the proper terminology while discussing a coin related topic.
I really do care to use the right nomenclature , or at least try to, and this is not an easy thing to do, so, to say that one term is right and another is wrong, well, that does shed a shady colored light on this subject, so, we all have our own way of relating to things and to say you are right and I am wrong, is just another form of expressing your right to have an opinion, let's get to the topic at hand, "the debate is over, .......
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I think the point of the debate is that there are people who believe that penny is the correct terminology, and who is to say it is not? (for the coin, not the denomination)

Just as Nickel is correct for the five cent coin.

However, as I said much earlier. No one at this late stage in life is going to change their mind on something they have done since childhood. So as with all of these type threads I don't think there will be any knock out punches!
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Cent Vs Penny

In my house and on my computer we fight the following battle all the time
Cent-Vs.-Penny.--The-Debate-Is-Over!

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 Posted 02/15/2009  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have some strange British spellings there? Or are they Australian?
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Todays newspaper
http://www.freep.com/article/200902...07/902150425

Asked and answered: Isn't a penny British?

By Alice Pepper • Free Press staff writer • February 15, 2009


QUESTION: In the Free Press report about the Lincoln Cent, you called it a penny. Isn't a penny British?


ANSWER: Yes, but quit being so fussy. "Cent" is the U.S. Mint's official name for the coin.

The lowest denomination on our currency chain is getting extra attention this year for the Lincoln bicentennial -- the 200th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln's birthday, which was Thursday.

For Lincoln's centennial in 1909, he became the first U.S. president to appear on circulating coins. The 1792 Mint Act had limited coins to "an impression emblematic of liberty." Our new country had rebelled against the Old World. We didn't want our coins to be like Europe's with their monarchs and emperors.

But we eventually got over ourselves, and the Philadelphia Mint coined 22 million of the first Lincoln cents in 1909. In 2008, 2.5 billion cents were stamped in Philadelphia. Add the Denver Mint production for close to 5.5 billion cents last year.

Check your pockets and penny, er, cent jar for these valuable coins: 1931-S (minted in San Francisco), $50; 1909-S VDB (the back has those initials), $550, and the 1984 doubled earlobe, $30.

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perfect timing
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You have some strange British spellings there? Or are they Australian?


Oh I see? It's a list from Georgia State University as to how the Brits spell? And this is for teachers. Maybe they should have done some research first. They probably looked them up on the Internet.

I especially like encylycopaedia!
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 Posted 02/16/2009  05:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And let's not forget the dime. "I found a million dollar baby in a five and ten cent store" OR "I found a million dollar baby in a five and one dime store" Just doesn't have the same ring to it.

For the benefit of younger members here the first quote is a line from a song of the 1930's (I think)

Seriously, I think I agree with those who have made the distinction that we may be using cent as a term of value and penny as a name for the object itself. It sorta makes sense.
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