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New Member
United States
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I have a token that was among a jar of coins that I got from a friend that no longer wanted them. You can see from the pics, one side says: "Success to the Commerce of Upper and Lower Canada. And the other: "Success to Commerce & Peace to the World. With the date of 1816 barely readable. A little help in some history of this coin. Thanks. This is my first post but they'll probably be more. There are a bunch of coins that I can't identify in this lot.   |
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Valued Member
United States
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Closet thing I can find are the 1816 Sir Isacc Brok Upper Canada tokens. It has the same Reverse but the Obverse is different... Here are the pictures. The other years have ships on them but they do not have two sails on the front bow of the ship, they have three... I'll keep digging... Someone here will know..   |
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Valued Member
United States
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
The second coin is Breton Number 724.
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Valued Member
United States
75 Posts |
Ahhhhh, should have read more carefully.... thought he was posting one coin.... DOH!!
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
The first coin - Breton Number 725 - is a tougher one to find. Its a mule made from the dies of Breton Number 723 and 724. Its listed with a Rarity of 2.
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks for the reply MKB. However, I have a question on the rarity scale you mentioned. I've searched for rarity scales and found on the USR that 2 is pretty rare, while on other scales 2 is slightly uncommon. Which way should I be looking on the scales? Thanks for all the help.
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
The rarity scale I refered to is what is listed in P.N. Breton's 1894 guide to Canadian coins. Its from 115 years ago, so perhaps things have changed a bit since then. The other coin was rated at a rarity of 1 by P.N. Breton.
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Valued Member
United States
75 Posts |
Thanks for the clarity and history on the coins guys! I learned something this time around!
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New Member
United States
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Ahhhhh, should have read more carefully.... thought he was posting one coin.... DOH! Just so there is no confusion, this is one coin. Some of the replies sound like each picture is being treated as a different coin. |
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Valued Member
United States
75 Posts |
Ohh... so I wasn't crazy after all! That makes me feel better. I went back and read the post several times and keep thinking that I must be reading it wrong...
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New Member
Canada
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The rarity scale as defined by Breton was 6 was the rarest with 1 being the most common; only seen one 6 in 50 years
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Valued Member
Canada
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Maybe I can clarify- the top token is a mule, rather scarce, in fact. It has the ship side of UC-5, Br.723( Isaac Brook, Bart, Brook is a spelling mistake on the token) and the date side of UC-6, Br. 724 (Isaac Brock, the hero of Upper Canada), which is the second token illustrated. The Mule shown is UC-7, Br.725. The date side was very worn when the token was struck. They commemorate Geneeral Sir Isaac Brock, who captured Detroit in the War of 1812. He was killed defending Queenstown Heights, Upper Canada (now Ontario), later in 1812. The tokens were issued in 1816, and were the lightest Canadian Copper tokens. The were discredited by 1820 because of the light weight.
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New Member
United States
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hi I see someone has a coin something like mine I am having trouble figuring out what it is it has a ship on one side and a saying about sir isaac brock bart the hero of upper and lower canada who fell in 1812 there is more than that but if someone could tell me something I would greatly appreciate it.
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Posted 02/16/2009 8:16 pm
