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Wow! There has been a lot of eye candy added since my last visit to this topic. You did not disappoint! 
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I'll continue on with my collection. I was doing these articles online at about the rate of once a week and mostly I'll just copy and paste the article verbatim here. I do have on addition, like I had to do in my prior post, because I did learn about several sets after this was written. I'm also going to do a separate post about the paperweight I mention in this one: Kind of a dull Friday night around here and finding something productive to do at your expense! Another thrilling installment of my weekly history thing I've been doing. Next up doing 1998-2000. Not a very thrilling time period. Proofs were all Philly. Bullion in 1998 was San Francisco or West Point. 1999 and 2000 were all West Point. In 2000 they did produce the Millennium Coinage and Currency Set. Bullion ASE, Sacagawea dollar, and a $1 note with the serial number starting 2000. The Sac dollar became a hot collectors target for awhile. It was minted in Denver and was discovered to be a burnished finish. So the set was a sell out when this was discovered. Set mintage was 75,000. The ASE on the OGP (which serves as the COA) is listed as a West Point, so a sealed set like this is eligible for the implied W mint mark, but as recently noted all bullion ASEs in 2000 were West Point. But if you have to have that implied mint mark, here you go. It's a cool set. Mine is sealed so no pics of the coins. Always wondering if it might have a serial number on the $1 bill that is consider "cool". Also adding to the mix an item that I picked up recently. ASE paperweight. I'm positive it's a US Mint item, but no real background one it. In searching, I did find other similar paperweights from that era in US Mint boxes like this. Old online US Mint press releases do mention other paperweights, but no reference to one with an ASE. Some sources say gifts to the ASE authorized resellers. I think it was probably an item the mint sold to the public but can't find a reference. Since it is a Millennium/2000 item it was worth mentioning it.       
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On the paperweight. I am questioning this a lot as anything the Mint ever sold. You can look these up. I found about it and just bought it when I found what I thought was a reasonable price on it, almost as a novelty. Usually you see them listed as something like "The Millennium Diamond paperweight". I am not here to present it as something is not. People typically present it as something the mint presented to individuals involved in the silver eagle marketing business, such as the authorized purchasers, etc, or mint employees. It would almost seem to me that they couldn't sell these to the public as it would be individual sales of bullion, which isn't how ASEs are meant to be sold. They could have made an exception I guess, but I've never seen anything regarding the sales of this. One thing I know they did sell was the Sac dollar lucite orb paperweight, which I'm showing a picture of. The thing that makes the diamond paperweight almost believable as a mint product is the box with the Treasury seal on it and it's the typical dark blue box of the era as well. But then you compare the box the diamond paperweight came in and the one the orb came in and I'd say it's the same box. So you can make up your own mind on if this was anything sanctioned by the mint or not, and it's rarity and value. People want big money for them, accompanied by fanciful but unverified stories of rarity and who got them and how. After saying all that though, for an ASE guy it's a pretty cool conversation piece if nothing else. ASE urban legend.  
Edited by Gilly 04/04/2023 09:27 am
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It took me awhile to get this post up, my phone was hassling me over the file size of the images. Working OK on my PC. This is the 1998 Ladies of Freedom Set with a Proof 1998 ASE and a Proof 1998 Britannia. Pic of COA attached. This is another one of The Royal Mint sets that they only made 1500 of, so these 2 (this and the Symbols of Freedom set) are the rarest sets made so far with an ASE in it. The Royal Mint made a set using this same name in 1996 using a £10 gold Proof Britannia and a $5 Proof AGE, only 750 of those were made. Some day.... This one came relatively easy, the Symbols set has been a little b@stard.     
Edited by Gilly 04/04/2023 09:23 am
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Looking good! 
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Wow, you have one amazing colletion, Gilly!  I've enjoyed seeing some of the more obscure pieces you have. Thanks for sharing!
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Quote: Wow, you have one amazing collection, Gilly! Thanks so much! I don't even worry about if I am going to ever make money now. It's gone completely off the rails. But right now there are small improvements I'd like to make, maybe a few other sets without ASEs in them like the RM set I mentioned, etc. I do have one significant set that has no ASE in it I will get to. I do have some stuff going on this evening that might prevent me from doing my next post, but I will keep after it, I have a lot of stuff left to share. But at this point I can at least relax, I don't think there is anything left to find, I really don't. Not with an ASE in it. That's what I was after. The RM sets might seem like a stretch to include, but no one has an issue with including the Pride of Two Nations Set, and that's the same situation. GOOD luck to anyone wanting those British sets! I'd offer help to anyone wanting to search them out. As an aside, were you on a YouTube livestream last night under the same name?
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Quote: but no one has an issue with including the Pride of Two Nations Set, Beg to differ, but I also have that 2 Nation set.
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I love the Pride of Two Nations set and have one as well. I would love to have gotten in on one of those British sets. 
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I also have the pride of two nations. Ordered one from the RCM and one from the US.
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Here's another few years I'll post up. Busy yesterday working at the polls. I think I can just post up the original article, as I've been doing. They're hardly literary masterpieces, but they do tell the story and I can't see the sense in rewriting it all. There is (you'll see a pattern here) one more set I've discovered in the last year, since this was written, anyways. Ok, here's the goods: Tackling another couple years tonight. 2001-2003. 2001 & 2002 were another couple years where it was kind of dull. Just the West Point proof and the bullion, which were all West Point as well. In 2003 it was the same, except the mint decided to try to find some niche markets by combining the bullion ASE with a British Britannia 2£ coin. What seems odd to me is the ASE is a 2003 but the Britannia is a 2002. The set was limited to 50,000, I have been unable to find the final production number. The mintage of the 2002 Britannia I read was 100,000, so if they made 50,000 of these, that's half of them! One thing an OGP guy like me takes note of in 2002 is they started using sales codes for everything. Should be a code sticker on the bottom of the box, or somewhere on the box. The first was Z26 for the 2002 and Z36 for the '03. I'll try to keep up on these codes as I go along, even the sets had them.   
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The first 2 pics are not mine as my set is sealed. The Legacies of Freedom set is a little more well-known in the US as it is a US Mint Set. The Ladies of liberty from The Royal Mint is a little lesser known. It's from 2002 and the Britannia and ASE are both 2002. Both of them The Royal Mint described as "Brilliant Uncirculated". The ASE is actually just a 2002 Bullion. The Britannia on the other hand has a finish we in the US would consider a reverse proof finish, this had already been noted. The OGP is unusual to us, but The Royal Mint has made what they call these "carded sets" a lot. The capsules are very odd, the two halves sort of twist together, I'd describe sort of like a pickle jar lid.The hole in the cardboard is such that the 2 halves sort of sandwich the cardboard between the capsule halves. Although the capsules are the same diameter, the coins are noth the same diameter, making the Britannia rattle just a little in the capsule. The Britannia is .958 silver. Fairly limited at 25,000 sets. The US Mint set Legacies of Freedom is typically associated as a 2003 set, but was actually released in Jan 2004. The odd part is that the ASE is a 2003, but the Britannia is still a 2002, and again is called Brilliant Uncirculated, but we would describe as more like a reverse proof finish. The way I understand it, as I have tried figuring out why they used a 2002 coin, is The Royal Mint will keep producing a mintage year until the limit is reached. So they were still making 2002 coins into 2003. Limited to 50,000 sets and the original price was $49.99.      
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An impressive set. Thank you for sharing! 
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Quote: An impressive set. Thank you for sharing! Happy to! I know it's a little awkward reading, both because it came from me and it was all written a year ago and I found those RM sets. I think I'm done with any real surprises now. Well except one, but that's an exception. Sometimes the images I have won't transfer with my phone, but my computer always has no problem. Why the images are too many kb on my phone and not my computer is beyond my training. Sometimes the English language is beyond my training it seems like! But glad people find the posts informative.
Edited by Gilly 04/06/2023 10:28 am
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Quote: Sometimes the images I have won't transfer with my phone, but my computer always has no problem. Why the images are too many kb on my phone and not my computer is beyond my training. Do not sweat it. I always prefer to push images from my laptop than from my phone.  Quote: But glad people find the posts informative. 
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