Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Shop CCF Members on eBay! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Julius Caesar Elephant 49Bc

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 2,775Next Topic
Page: of 2
Moderator
Learn More...
Spence's Avatar
United States
34393 Posts
 Posted 04/20/2023  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@amentia, thank you for joining CCF and weighing in on this piece. Knowing that it is a die match for modern fakes is for sure conclusive. It is great to have your expertise here and I hope you stick around.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
Valued Member
josephrg's Avatar
United States
234 Posts
 Posted 04/20/2023  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephrg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The eye detail and the end of the trunk do not seem to match the replica coin.I will get better edge pictures but do not see a seam anywhere around the edge.
New Member
Germany
4 Posts
 Posted 04/21/2023  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amentia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You will only have a seam on Cast Fakes, the seam is where the two Casting (1 obverse and 1 Reverse) moulds will meet. In most cases this seam will be removed on Cast Fakes, with file and polished.

This Fake is Not a Cast Fake so No characteristicas of Cast Fakes.

This Fake was pressed with modern Hand Cut dies.
Even coins from same dies will Always Look a little bit different.
1. Different die states, dies will get worn from usage and get die flaws and die Breaks with usage time.
2. The Strike, pressing, different Details will be captures, some Details will get lost or damage on Struck coins, this can be for example due to, Bad centering, flat Strike, slippage, Double strike etc
3. Then circulation or environmental influences that can effect the coin's surface and Details.

You should rather Look how much they have in Common, we have to consider that these dies are free Hand Cut and are very different from any real authentic die. If there are No differences Like Here or differences that can be explained with different die states, the striking/pressing or wear or environmental influences, IT IS a die match.

IT IS a very Common Replica I have IT 2 Times in Mint sate and 1 time altered with artificial wear and about every week you will See one of These on ebay.


Julius-Caesar-Elephant-49Bc
Julius-Caesar-Elephant-49Bc
Julius-Caesar-Elephant-49Bc
Edited by Amentia
04/21/2023 05:09 am
Pillar of the Community
captainmandrake1's Avatar
United States
878 Posts
 Posted 04/21/2023  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Did whoever designed this coin ever see an actual elephant?
I think the kebab legs are armor!!!
Edited by captainmandrake1
04/21/2023 01:47 am
  Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 2,775Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.19 seconds to rattle this change. Forums