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El Salvador
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I am new to this forum, and with a doubt that I have I thought that the best thing would be to ask here. Yesterday on a visit to an antiques market, I ran into a numismatic seller, where I got two one pound sterling coins, when I began to investigate to catalog them, I checked the edge of one of them - GBP 1 1996 Celtic Cross- Northern Ireland . The original inscription is "Decus et Tutamen", but instead of looking like a common typography, it looks like handwriting. I don't know what you think, would be valuable?   |
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Moderator
 United States
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United States
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@ems, first welcome to CCF. Second, if it was applied to the coin after it left the mint, then I think that you have two possibilities: a damaged coin or a counterfeit coin. What is the weight of these pieces?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
312 Posts |
Looks to me to be a forgery unfortunately. The text looks freehand and possibly done with a dremel.
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New Member
 El Salvador
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@Spence I'm going to take it to a jeweler to weigh it with a precision scale, hopefully it won't be counterfeited. I will try to do it as fast as possible.
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United States
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Ok yes good. Please circle back to this thread once you have an accurate weight. Thx. In the meantime, you'll hopefully have others weigh in with their opinions.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It would be nice to see the faces of this coin in addition to the edge
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Forgery. The legends seem to be the part they found hardest to copy. Sometimes the legends don't even match the designs they were meant to go with. But then they only needed to look passable to the average punter. Most people don't inspect their change to the degree we do!
On the bright side though, these modern counterfeits are historically quite interesting, although not of any great value. In the UK a specialist collector of fakes would likely be happy to give you a pound for it!
Edited by Tom Goodheart
04/18/2023 4:57 pm
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New Member
El Salvador
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@Hondo Boguss Well, here are the faces, sorry for the poor quality  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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EMSonic, I'm not an expert on the coins of Great Britain, but the devices look very "mushy" to me, and the lettering is decidedly weak. It appears to be a fake.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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When I first saw edge, my immediate thought was 'counterfeit'.
By Law, you cannot use this coin as a spender, and therefore,
-you loose.
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New Member
El Salvador
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Well, if it's a counterfeit coin, it's not a big loss for me.
I only paid USD 0.25 for it.
Don't think they scammed me on purpose. The seller was cleaning his place and he found a jar full of coins from all countries, I put my hand in it and took out a few coins, about 10 coins, I paid only USD 2.50. This was the only coin that I could not catalog.
If it is false, I will use it in a piece in my sculpture work at my Fine Arts school.
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04/18/2023 9:42 pm
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Australia
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It's 100% counterfeit, sorry.
The reason Britain introduced a new £1 coin design in 2017 was the high prevalence of counterfeits. It was estimated that up to 3% of all 1 pound coins in circulation were fake.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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I'm a bit late, but here is the coin ojn the Fake Pound Coinn Database. The edge inscription on this type of fake does vary quite a lot, but I'm sure you can see (Especially if you click 'Stretched S' and view the others) that it's the same. http://thefakepoundcoindatabase.co....CROSS44.html |
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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I've got a collection of fake £1 coins. Some of them are pretty awful, but a few of them are very good. A good way of identifying one is to see if the images on the heads and tails line up properly. They should also be the same way up. It shouldn't matter which way up the edge lettering is, and it should weigh 9.5 grams.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Edge inscription for England and Northern Ireland should say DECUS ET TUTAMEN. For Scotland NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESIT, Wales is PLEIDIOL WYF I'm GWLAD. I hope this helps.
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