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Moderator
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Edited by John1 07/05/2023 3:41 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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John, I'll stick with Verdi-Care. From the label: Quote: Leaves a non-ionic coating for lubrication and protection Also Quote: Not recommended for guns If it's not recommended for guns, it seems that it would not be recommended for coins.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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I am hoping one of our chemists will chime in. I am thinking you would not want to put verdi on guns either. John1 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Quote: I am hoping one of our chemists will chime in. I am thinking you would not want to put verdi on guns either. Superzilla is a "propriety mixture" - a secret recipe. My rule of thumb: if they refuse to tell you what's in it, don't put it on your coins. Whatever is in it, it's presumably not entirely different from WD-40 and other non-green products that do more or less the same job. Certainly this: Quote: Leaves a non-ionic coating for lubrication and protection ...sounds a lot like what WD-40 claims to do. WD-40 and related products do their rustproofing thing by providing a thin layer of oil in between the metal surface and the atmosphere. Coins don't need this if they're being stored in a plastic capsule, slab, 2x2 or some other air-resistant storage system. You only really need a "coating" on your coins if you're using an old-fashioned coin cabinet or some other open-to-the-air system, and don't want to use old-fashioned lacquer or renwax.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Doesn't verdi leave an oily film to protect the coin? I seen an ad for this stuff on tv and thought it was a lot like WD40 which I would not use on coins. Just wanted to get a little more insight on the new stuff from members in the know.Thanks. John1 
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Quote: Doesn't verdi leave an oily film to protect the coin? It leaves a protective layer, but it is not oily since it is water based. http://goccf.com/t/62434
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 with Sap! Their website https://superzilla.us/ does not have any ingredient list or safety sheet letting us know what's put into the products they sell. If you want to try it out, use only non valuable coins to play with it on.
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New Member
United States
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Has anyone else tried Superzilla on coins? I was thinking of getting the smallest amount of it to try, but wanted to see if anyone else tried it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Coinseeker, I wouldn't put this on any coin I own. I found the MSDS for Superzilla online, and it is uninformative: Section 2. Composition Information On Ingredients Proprietary Mixture No single CAS Number applicable Somewhat defeats the purpose of a MSDS.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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New Member
United States
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It might or might not be safe on coins - difficult to know without having the ingredients and knowing more about how it's manufactured.
However, the fact it's called a "green" product is somewhat concerning. It's not clear what they mean by that, but they refer to it being plant-derived. That means whatever ingredients they use are not going to be as pure and clean as something like mineral oil that is manufactured from petroleum products.
Their website goes on and on about how bad petroleum distillates are, but they are distillates - they will be relatively pure. The plant-derived "green" have who knows what impurities.
I'd stay away from this one. If you want to try it, test it on non-important coins first. Verdi-care is at least made for and tested on coins, and mineral oil has a history of usage and is generally quite pure.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: If you want to try it, test it on non-important coins first. AndisCoins, their instructions are to leave this juice on the object being treated. It may take a while for adverse effects to manifest themselves (think PVC damage). I would simply avoid this product, because as you stated there are proven safe alternatives.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Thanks all, I appreciate it. Great tips.
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I wonder if you requested an MSDS sheet, would they provide it - By law (or OSHA) I think they are required to have an MSDS sheet.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Dearborn, it's online and worthless.
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