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Red Meat For Grading - 1864 Two Cent Piece

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 Posted 12/11/2023  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You forgot the white gloves! Video not too helpful, at least to me. Looks cleaned.
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 Posted 12/11/2023  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seeing some luster but no real cartwheel. Can't tell if it has been cleaned or not.
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 Posted 12/12/2023  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details (cleaned) it appears that all or most of the luster has been removed.
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 Posted 12/12/2023  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unc Cleaned. You are handling the coin correctly.
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 Posted 12/12/2023  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In your video, you take the coin and turn it and it seems to have medallic orientation. It should have coin orientation. Unless this is a very severe rotated die, this is not as it should be and makes the coin a little suspect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_orientation
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 Posted 12/12/2023  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly ex-jewelry? I see some serious notches in the rim and edge.
Edit: @ns, there are some ~180 degree rotated dies on Heritage, like this one https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/186...ption-071515 but good point.
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 Posted 12/12/2023  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add apcol258 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details whizzed
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 Posted 12/12/2023  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a details coin. I would send it back. Just one man's opinion.
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 Posted 12/13/2023  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After viewing the video in full screen mode I have to agree that the coin appears to be AU details- polished or whizzed.
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 Posted 12/13/2023  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without a doubt cleaned coin.

Hard pass & don't bother buying from that seller anymore.

These people are a serious contagion in our hobby, purposely cleaning these Coins and ruining them.

The ignorant buyers only further enable their terrible business practices.
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