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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Seller's images. I found the grade given to be interesting. What do you think PCGS graded it?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Unc details cleaned. I see horizontal wipe marks across the cheek and neck. They are subtle but appear to be there. Looks like an unc that was unfortunately mishandled at some point.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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'Unc details cleaned' mild enough to not influence the lower valuation too much.
I am thinking some sort of mild friction, because I don't see the same feature on the reverse.
I have no idea what PCGS opinion may be, but my opinion
MS-63, the obverse 'cleaning' holds it back a little.
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Valued Member
United States
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AU Details: Cleaned.
My eye can't get past what appears to be wear on the lower part of the reverse shield device and the centre feather of the eagle's tail. The right portion of the motto scroll looks suspect to me, as well. The type of hazed lustre exhibited at those points just isn't consistent with what I've seen with light cleanings, weak strikes, or late die states.
On the obverse, bag marks on Liberty's face and neck aren't at all consistent with those exhibited on the the rest of the obverse. Are the horizontal hairlines across Liberty evidence of doctoring, not just cleaning?
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12/10/2023 05:43 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm thinking MS63....after all, it is early morning...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2003 Posts |
MS details - cleaned. Still a beautiful coin. You just don't find many of these old workhorses in high grades.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4233 Posts |
Great comments so far! Probably unrelated to the grade, I noted that the slab is Gen 4.4 Nov 2005 - Dec 2011. I was also looking closely at it and thought, what the heck is that squiggle in Liberty's upper lip? Is that a strike-through? I started poking around and that feature seems to have started in 1896 and ended in 1901.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
18644 Posts |
way too many hairlines across the profile. they also appear faintly across the shield
UNC details (cleaned)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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MS62. I think the huge images and lighting make it look worse than it is. That said is does show signs of a light cleaning/dipping holding the grade down.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3323 Posts |
I'm out on a limb with MS65 straight grade. Pretty coin!
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hope that limb can support both of us Bump, I'm thinking 64-65 straight. I don't see a clean.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36638 Posts |
The hairlines could be on the plastic slab. I'm thinking MS-64 on this one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4233 Posts |
There may be some discussion about this one after the reveal!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2003 Posts |
If indeed those hairlines are on the holder and not the coin then I would give this a grade of MS-64. Either way it is a beauty!
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