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Artificial Intelligence (Ai) Is Dumbing Down Ebay Descriptions

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How much of a description do you really need for coin listings anyway?

It seems the most necessary part is the disclaimers about grading being subjective, whether or not you used a stock photo, and any shipping restrictions.
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How much of a description do you really need for coin listings anyway?
In my experience, not much.

The majority of my ebay purchases have had very terse descriptions and the photos (of actual coin) did most of the talking. The description was often a seller's boilerplate... "photo is the coin your will receive," return policy, combined shipping instructions, etc.
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Here's a couple more:
It has not been certified, but it has been cleaned to bring out its natural shine.
The absence of a Mint mark adds to its uniqueness and collectibility (sic).
The coin was struck at an unknown Mint location, adding to its mysterious appeal. ( no mint mark Lincoln Cent)
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The mysterious appeal of an unknown mint location... Gives me goose bumps!
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In some fields, like British coins and tokens, you really can't identify varieties -- and therefore "values" -- without knowing about the edge and die rotation. I hate buying duplicates into my collection, so I'm "contacting sellers" several times a month to nail down such details.


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 Posted 01/21/2024  01:27 am  Show Profile   Check ClusterCoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ClusterCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This sort of AI spam, and especially the stupidly high prices on ebay for common cheap coins, threatens to make the whole site look like a cheap scammer's paradise of pure junk.

I sell a range of products on ebay, including coins and banknotes, and have never used ebay's AI. It makes all listings sound like they're posted by a used car salesman.

I don't use Facebook Marketplace as honestly, the coins section in my area is mostly junk at extremely high prices and a mountain of counterfeits. I'd hate to see ebay descending into something like this.
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Lazy sellers using lazy AI descriptions intended for lazy buyers.
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Lazy sellers using lazy AI descriptions intended for lazy buyers.


That reminds me of the quote loosely attributed to P.T. Barnum. Even in the computer age, "There's a sucker born every minute."




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AI is only as good as what data it is fed. Garbage in, Garbage out.

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Actually, given the training materials being used, the new AI slogan is

Quality In, Garbage Out
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And, ClusterCoin,


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This sort of AI spam, and especially the stupidly high prices on ebay for common cheap coins, threatens to make the whole site look like a cheap scammer's paradise of pure junk.


It's been that way for years, the AI just makes stupid more stupid.

There is a lot of overpriced junk on ebay. Equally, there are some bargains - but you have to look at a lot of clowns to find Prince Charming. It's just how much time do you want to waste...


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AI is the hot new thing and everyone is scrambling to get in as fast as they can. Quality, Fast, Cheap... pick two... and the first one is usually the one not picked. I doubt they are curating the best descriptions or that they have robust processes to weed out the rubbish, so I will not assume only quality information is going in.
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I saw this one today:
Certification is not available for this item, but rest assured that it has been well-circulated and carefully maintained.
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I just found out about this AI thing. All I kept thinking is what is going on and why are all the descriptions by different sellers oddly weird. Good grief.
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CASMAN, after you read enough AI coin descriptions they start jumping out at you.
"This coin has not been certified, adding to its exclusivity and charm."
"Don't miss out on the opportunity to add this one-of-a-kind piece to your collection.
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1912 Wheat cent Lamination Error Xf Unique Stunning Coin S/226 ($42.49 + shipping)
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