1964-D Kennedy Quadrupled Die FS-105

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canyonmule Valued Member United States 93 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 3:19 pm This is the coin I started a thread in Grading. Now that I have it in hand, after a request for close ups of the doubling, here ya go! :) * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

coin rejector Pillar of the Community United States 2854 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 3:25 pm I see 3 splits (TDO) but maybe someone w/ more experience can confirm quads. Nonetheless.... nice coin! Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6535 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 3:30 pm That is a real beauty! Love the separation on those serifs. =) Report this Post to the Staff
canyonmule Valued Member United States 93 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 3:41 pm @coin rejector - I see three splits too, but I also see only 3 splits on PCGS pics of the FS-105? Also has the flared G on the reverse and the die marker by the lips as shown on Variety Vista. http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kenned...4DDDO005.htm idk - I'm still learning too. Hoping for more experts to weigh in. Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6535 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 3:58 pm http://www.doubleddie.com/1598998.html http://www.varietyvista.com/12%20Ke...4PDDO035.htm http://www.varietyvista.com/12%20Ke...201964-D.htm https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plu...s-1964-date/ I think you need to match up the FG initial style, and also some markers. There are at least three 1964-D 50c Cherrypicker varieties with tripling. The PCGS entries are a mess for 1964 half dollars. NGC VarietyPlus is a bit better. That slanting triple on the S serifs seems like a lock for FS-105. Maybe the quadrupling is subtle, or requires an early die state, or doesn't appear on all devices. I don't have that CPG to know what it says exactly, just the VV and Wexler entries. Report this Post to the Staff
canyonmule Valued Member United States 93 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 4:18 pm Here's the die markers from Wexler's WDDO-005 - CONECA: 5-O-II, Cherrypickers: FS-50-1964D-105 (013.6) Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6535 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 5:16 pm Well, that's definitely it. I would note that although the CPG, VV, and presumably PCGS call FS-105 a quadrupled die, the Wexler catalog describes it as tripling. In the NGC VarietyPlus reference, I believe you can see quadrupling on the center serif of the W and the left serif of the U. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74456 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 10:31 pm Very nice DDO! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
mikev50 Pillar of the Community United States 1910 Posts	Posted 01/06/2024 10:50 pm right on--- Report this Post to the Staff
igwt79 Pillar of the Community United States 1465 Posts	Posted 01/07/2024 08:54 am Awesome! Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96598 Posts	Posted 01/07/2024 10:12 am what a very cool DDO!!! nice find! Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 01/07/2024 6:28 pm Nice pick. Report this Post to the Staff
Tacc Pillar of the Community United States 3535 Posts	Posted 01/07/2024 6:39 pm That's real nice, never seen one like it. Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8767 Posts	Posted 01/07/2024 6:45 pm That is an impressive variety, congrats! What did it grade or have you sent it off yet? Not sure if you just got it in hand from a seller or the TPG. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
oddguy Pillar of the Community United States 4135 Posts	Posted 01/07/2024 8:08 pm Nice one. Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 01/07/2024 10:31 pm I kave many time this question: Why Quad? !! Easy " 1. Master hub the first doubled on Master Die 2. Master die the seond on the Working Hub 3. The Working Hub on the Working Die 4. The Working Die transfer to the coin ( finish product ) So we have 4 transfers with 3 splits. Not archimede theorema, just how the Mint work in time. In conclusion: You see three splits from 4 steps. So QDO. The Wex has also the TDO which it is another game ball. Analyzing the product (finish) with the method of production, we can separate the minings of splits. Different opinions but BRAND the Wex tripled is not this one. Edited by silviosi 01/07/2024 10:35 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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