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Ok good investigation @tdz--I suspect you are right. I skipped over a bunch of Taris and Fractional Follaros, but wasn't sure about that one. Here is a 12th/13th Denier from the French County of Angouleme:   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Great additions.  Errers and Varietys.
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Denier of the Prince-Bishopric of Liege, Albert de Cuyck (1195-1200)   |
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Very nice, tdziemia. Errers and Varietys.
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Wow, amazing coins! Quote:Quote:
Not 100% sure that this Terzodi Apuliense "counts" as a Denier or Penny, so pardon me if it is out of scope. Grierson and Travaini . . . Their best guess is that the apuliensis was 1/6 of a tari, so the tercius would be 1/18 of a tari (hence, maybe out of scope as you guessed, but that's erafjel's call). According to Numista, the later denari were 1/120 tari, thus there would be 6 2/3 denari on a terzo? So yes, out of scope - but, a very interesting design: a palm tree, and Arabic script on the reverse. The weight of a terzo was slightly below 1 g, from the examples I find online, which puts it in the same range as many contemporary deniers. I think we can make this one an honorary denier.  |
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Honorary Denier works for me! Here is an actual Denier from Cologne. I posted another one upthread, so this design should look somewhat familiar:   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Nice example, Spence. Errers and Varietys.
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Another from the Bishopric of Metz, Bertram (1180-1212)   (I think that reverse photo was meant for comparison to a dime for the Tiny Coin thread). |
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Very nice, tdziemia! Errers and Varietys.
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Here is a late 12th Century Pfennig from the Austrian City of Gürk:   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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It's interesting how widely designs with some kind of church on the reverse spread. I am assuming they were all inspired by the Carolingian "temple denier." But the whole Germanic/Austrian world made them, the Liege coin I posted, there are some from Poland (though they had a lot of other deigns like the one below), and down to Aquileia in Italy which was under Austrian influence coinage-wise in the 12th c. (I don't have one, but see them often, and they can be seen on Numista or acsearch). My nicest 12th c Polish Denar, Wladyslaw II (1138-1146) with presumably the king on one side, and a bishop on the other:   Edited by tdziemia
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Nice examples posted over the weekend! |
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Nice contributions, Spence and tdziemia! |
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Uncirculated American Silver Eagles 
