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Quote: My guess would be test cuts Mine too!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Quote: I wonder what's up with the weird conical holes; they look post-mint. My guess would be test cuts, but if so there's rather a lot of them. Fortunately they don't really mess up the design. I also wondered why there are so many. My guess is that the counterfeiting gurus, back in the day, added test cuts to their copies before silvering them to give the impression that they had been tested before. The bankers and traders caught on, and would test cut again. This would affect both real coins and copies alike. It is self evident that "trust" wasn't a popular concept back then. 
The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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Nice examples! 
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802 AH - 1400 CE Bahmani AR Tanka 
The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
Edited by ttkoo 01/19/2025 02:15 am
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Super clear date on this one!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Quote: Super clear date on this one Yep, someone had a good day at the mint. 801 AH 1399 CE Bahmani AR Tanka Almost at the end (or start) of the Taj ud-din Firuz issues. 
The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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Lovely Pair. 
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Quote: [Groschen from Aachen dated 1403 AD] ... don't seem to come up for auction too often though. WAG currently has a nice upgrade calling your name :)
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Today's listing is my final Taj ud-din Firuz* silver tanka. (*a.k.a Taj al-din Firoz / Firuz...one of the drawbacks, having a consonant based written language) 800 AH 1398 C.E. Although the date could be construed as 809, there wasn't a tanka issue for that year. (G&G) 
The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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Quote: Although the date could be construed as 809, there wasn't a tanka issue for that year. (G&G) I've seen a discussion in another forum about how 809 is the only missing year and they don't actually believe that it doesn't exist  But judging by the dates in the last few coins, if it was actually a 809 the zero would have been vertically centered lower than that. So if the second digit is as high as the third, it has to be a 800. I'm guessing that tomorrow we'll see a 799 and then I'll have an answer to another possible disambiguation: sometimes the 9 has a sharp corner in the upper right than the 0 lacks. If that's the case then this is definitely not a 9.
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Quote: I'm guessing that tomorrow we'll see a 799 and then I'll have an answer to another possible disambiguation: sometimes the 9 has a sharp corner in the upper right than the 0 lacks. If that's the case then this is definitely not a 9. Ah, the excitement is palpable!
The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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Quote: WAG currently has a nice upgrade calling your name Thx for the head's up @sam. I'm posting a link here for visibility in case anyone wants to join the 1403 club. It is a little porous, but seems to be clearly struck. https://www1.wago-auktionen.de/losd...nr=305&rid=0
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Quote: Today's listing is my final Taj ud-din Firuz* silver tanka... 800 AH 1398 C.E. Very nice!  Quote: I'm guessing that tomorrow we'll see a 799 and then I'll have an answer to another possible disambiguation: sometimes the 9 has a sharp corner in the upper right than the 0 lacks. If that's the case then this is definitely not a 9. 
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For 1397 ( AH 799), I have another Bahmani tanka, this time issued under Muhammad Shah II. 
The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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Excellent! 
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