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 Posted 10/23/2024  3:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

I am about to submit a few coins to PCGS for grading. I am curious if they have a standard they follow designating the coins. Below is the list of coins and I just need to know if they will title it their own way or do I need to tell them what to write.

1. Canada large cent 1888 UNC
2. Canada large cent 1891 LDLL Obv 2 - Repaired N see 2011 Charlton page 328
3. Canada large cent 1859 narrow 9 - repunched 9 # 5

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 Posted 10/23/2024  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is an option for each llne of your submission to leave a note. I would them to ask them to consider your variety.
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 Posted 10/23/2024  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS has numbers and standard titles for each coin. The 1888 and DPN9 T5 are recognized by PCGS. The 1891 Repaired N is not.

You can leave a note, but if it is not in the front of Charlton, they usually will not bite.

PCGS does not recognize large cent obverse portrait varieties, except for the 1884 OC1.

Here is their Victorian cent list.

https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail/vic...58-1901/4295
http://www.victoriancent.com

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 Posted 10/23/2024  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The cost to certify a coin at PCGS could be a large chunk of what the coin may ever be worth, or even MORE than the coin would ever be worth. You pay for the grade, the postage and the insurance. Make sure that the coins would be worth it.

Thanks, Rob, for the PCGS list for certing Vicky large cents. From what I've learned and seen on the various coin sites, a coin needs to be worth (actual sell for) more than $200, but some say $300 to be worth a PCGS cert.
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I have what I believe to be the highest grade double die variety of the 1880 Newfoundland 5 cent. It's easily AU-55, well above anything in listed in Charlton or Trends. I was contemplating sending it to PCGS but decided to not do so because they could not guarantee that they would recognize that particular variety. Personally, I think that's bad scholarship. As a result, while I still respect PCGS, I'm wary of sending things to them that aren't bog-standard.

The options are tricky. ICCS has a tendency to mis-grade copper; CCCS is on the conservative side.
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From the feedback, my best bet is to call them later and ask specifically about the 1891 repaired N. Its not about the grade for that coin its more about the hunt for one finally in decent shape.
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 Posted 10/24/2024  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For your cost/benefit analysis:

Express Service = $70, takes 20 business days

Regular Service = $40, takes 40 business days

Economy Service = $28, takes 55 business days (or more), max coin value = $300

Plus shipping back to Canada, say $60.

All costs in USD. I usually will not send coins to PCGS unless they are worth $1,000 or more and justify using Express Service. JMHO.

I like PCGS, but they can be expensive and slow.
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As to the 1891. ask yourself if you are okay getting it back in a holder labelled simply "1891 LDLL." with no obverse portrait noted and no repaired N noted. If the answer is yes, then submit it. You may talk them into noting it on the holder, but guess I doubt it in this case.

After all, PCGS have not recognized the 1891 LDLL, obverse 3 re-punched T in VICTORIA, nor the 1891 SDSL, obverse 3, re-punched T in GRATIA. The latter coin has been in the front of Charlton for years.
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