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 Posted 11/19/2024  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a very unusual Encased Cent.

It is a test coin or salesman sample from 1929, the first year where we know an Encased Coin was made with a Canadian small cent. I suspect a US encased manufacturer put the Canadian cent in the process to see how it would perform. Notice on the reverse side the aluminum work is a little sloppy.

When I see an unusual coin like this, I am always suspicious that the cent has been replaced. In this case I am 100% confident it is original, because you can see a little of the "I bring" stamped into the bottom of the obverse. If you understand how Encased Coins are minted (perhaps a topic for another post), you will know that this is 100% proof that the core coin is original.


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I wonder if the last 1929 was a test coin run for the 1929 Souvenir of Canada Encased Coin. This is a popular and relatively common coin and seems to always come with the 1929 date. While the test coin above has a different shape, the stray aluminum on the reverse of the test coin is similar to stray aluminum commonly seen on many of the 1929 Souvenir of Canada coins. Perhaps the manufacturer was unhappy with the look of the round coins and tried a horseshoe with a Canadian coin to see if he got a better result?

The 1929 coin comes in a number of varieties. There are two obverses as shown in the first photo here. Also, the outside ring can be either coinage or medal orientation as shown in bottom left in the first photo. Note, as seen in the second photo, the Encased Coin also comes in a high 9 variety.

You can see the stray aluminum on many of these coins....it looks very similar to the 1929 test coin in the earlier post. In general stray aluminum is not that common so it tells me that for some reason the 1929 Canadian cent did not pair well with the aluminum encasement.

The 1929 Souvenir of Canada ring appears to be very similar to the Souvenir of Niagara Falls ring that is commonly seen with US cents of the time including 1929. The US coins do not seem to have the stray aluminum problem.
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I want to see some Whiskys - Whiskeys
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I was hpoing someone else might jump in but I fear this category may be too esoteric for most.

Perhaps one of the most common encased from any nation is the "Windsor Canadian" whisky coin. The coins from 1963 and 1964 are ridiculously common and many dates are possible.

Here are a few tougher ones to find......1959, 1960, 1961 and 1967 in the first photo.

Also here are some ones that are a bit tougher....1964 and 1965 with the dies set up for a coinage axis US cent.

The second and third photos have 2 special issues....the 1974 "Oregon" ring and the 1976 Bicentennial ring.


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Thanks for the post, a lot of them Iv never seen before.
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As far as I know the 1960 is the only one found to date. The 1961s are very scarce and the 1967 is not often seen. The 1959 was very tough but a US seller emerged who had something like 20 MS examples. I suspect the 1959-1961 dates made their way into the 1963 minting process by mistake.
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I have 2 x 1970 Windsor whisky
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Are there more farm related ones like the 1947 Massey Harris
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I thought I would send out a link to an ebay listing with one of the more special Canadian Encased Coins out there.... the 1939/40 Carmichael encased dollar. There are a great many Canadian and US General Motors dealers that issued Encased Coins around 1940. This is the only known example of a Canadian encased silver dollar.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126877171216?_skw=encased

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The Encased Coins are pretty cool. I never collected them but have always found them interesting. I have even thought about having some made as calling cards.
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Would that be with using large cents?
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