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Canadian Encased Cents Discussion Forum: Post Your Coins, Questions And Comments

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 Posted 01/11/2025  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is nearly impossible to find someone who will do it now. I am in an ongoing discussion with the fellow who was the most recent producer (c 2000 to 2010) who is still trying to get his hands on steel for the dies.

I have found one supplier but they are pretty expensive compared to historical suppliers. Their rings are made of some sort of steel.

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 Posted 01/12/2025  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chadcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This key chain maybe a little different but a nice way to advertise. Encased in a different way. This is a very interesting topic!!
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 Posted 01/12/2025  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My photo is too big to fit in one pic, so I'm dividing into 4. It was neat 1919 large cent and I sold it to an avid collector
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 Posted 01/12/2025  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a really cool one, okiecoiner!
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I bid on this one in an online auction but was not successful. The final price was over $20 but I don't know how much.
It was the first time I'd seen an irradiated Canadian dime in a Museum of Atomic Energy encasement. More commonly Mercury and Roosevelt dimes are in these.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ex...a125927.html
American Museum of Atomic Energy Irradiated Canada Dime
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It is nearly impossible to find someone who will do it now.


You should ask Sean Isaacs, he had a bunch made about a dozen years ago.
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 Posted 01/12/2025  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think Sean got the Ottawa mint to make them but I am not sure. I think I asked him and I don't think his place is still an option.

Nice irradiated piece. I used to have 2 or three Canadian irradiated coins but I let them go. They are tough to find and typicaly sell for well more than US versions.

Okie, you sold me the Hamilton coin! I will post photos tomorrow of it and a few different Hamilton Maple Leafs
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Stephen Oatway, Britannia Numismatics, had a bunch of 2015 dated 10c coins encased. The ring has the initials PPH.
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 Posted 01/13/2025  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that is PPM for Penny Press Mint. He is the fellow currently trying to get tool steel.
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The Hamilton maple leaf coins come with dates between 1900 and 1920. I have only seen brown coins, which is unusual as many Encased Coins get put away unused. So even early date coins are often found with some decent red on them. The Hamilton coin is an unusual one....it is too large and irregular to be a pocket piece. Some of the coins have pins attached (all the pins look about the same) so some were meant to be (ugly!) jewellery. Most however have no pin attached. Here are three examples....Okie's 1919 coin, another 1919 with the typical pin attached, and a 1917.
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Yes mine (now smallcentguy's) had no pin on the 1919.
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Here is a pretty spectacular Encased Coin error I recently picked up.

First is an example of the coin with no error. It is hard to tell from the photo, but the Canadian cent was probably a little too large for the hole, which was likely sized for a US cent. Or perhaps the Canadian zinc cent was stronger than the US cent. Regardless, it is not set in the encasement very well and it appears to have been under some undue stress. I am wondering if this is a sign of some problems in the minting of this Encased Coin.


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Now we get to the error coin. I am still not 100% sure what happened here, but obviously the press got jammed and the coin was flattened and caused to be significantly enlarged.

At first I was reluctant to buy this becuase I was afraid it might be a "railroad" job or in some other way flattened by a PMD mechanical process.

But I am pretty sure that this is legit. On the obverse side, the lettering that is there. while significantly enlarged, is still crisply struck and convex in three dimensions. Also, the lettering on the obverse side comes from the reverse die. That could only have happened at the time the coin was struck. Since all the legends are convex it does not seem to be some sort of highly complex vise job.

Any opinions on how this coin came to be would be most welcome! While I know how these coins are made, I have still not figured out how this came out this way.
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Very interesting!

It looks like it went through one of those machines that make elongated cents, but able to work with a large sized coin.
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