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British 1889 Half Penny 9 Over 8 ?

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I know this is not in very good condition but I think its kinda special and was needing opinions from the experts here. Does anyone see another digit under one of the numbers, it looks to me like 8 under 9 in the date? It looks more impressive in person and is easier to see than the photos do credit. I have more photos if interested in seeing more. Also, I'm doing this to make others aware if this coin is what I think it is. I know it wouldn't be worth much in the condition it is in but if anyone has any idea of worth please let me know. I have a couple hundred world coins but I don't know jack chit about them.
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VYHD-555 1889 9 over 8.

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Coincraft's 1998 Standard Catalogue of English & UK Coins 1066 to Date page 957
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Correct 1889/8 but your positioning is slightly off here is where the 8 sits marked with arrows and below a mock up of what it would of looked like and your original at the bottom very nice find
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Thank You zookeeperz,
I can see in the photo where the 8 looks out of position, Thank you again. Do you think the 8 could be flattened from wear? Ive seen dates like that before where they were handled so much it just pushed the metal down and it spread out.
Is it a serious problem for the coin or in your opinion is it something thats normal. I would think that the 8 or 9 couldn't be in the exact same place on every coin. Probably very close to same exact spot . if same die.
Thanks again for the intrest and info.
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Known as good housekeeping and the shortage of metals to strike the coins it was common practice to remove the last digit from the die and replace it with the new year digit in this case the 1888 die was or should of removed all trace of the 8 before placing the 9. Obviously someone in quality control would of picked up on this and the die would of been either repunched after removing any trace of the 8 . Or the die was coming to the end of its life literally So they unsuccessfully left some of the 8 in place before altering the date probably 10-50 strikes before the die broke into pieces and so a rarity occurs as the brand new die would just have 1889 from the get go.

Some dates are in fact almost all over dates like the jubilee shilling 1888 nearly all were struck over 1887 . There are true 1888 shillings but are very hard to find
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