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Lead? China Cash Coin

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 Posted 03/19/2025  12:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Unsure what this is, but it doesn't feel modern. Looks to be lead or lead alloy mix. Weighs 4g and is approx 21mm.

I have a copy of Hartills book but can't find coins with a raised square centre and round hole.

Do we think a contemporary attempt at a forgery or a token?

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 Posted 03/19/2025  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not an official coin, Chinese or elsewhere. The legend appears to be that of a Qian Long cash coin, but the characters are somewhat crudely rendered - plus of course the very unofficial-looking hole, which has clearly been drilled into the coin after it was made.

Such an item probably wasn't made as part of a good luck charm - Chinese tradition places strong emphasis and meaning on the necessity for the square-hole-in-round-coin symbolism (the square hole is the earth and the round outside of the coin is heaven, or some such) and getting rid of the square hole would negate that - the Feng Shui replica coins you see for sale on the streets all have square holes in them, despite the difficulty this adds to their manufacture.

My assumption for your item would be funeral money - a replica coin, specifically made for tossing into a fire at funerals. Making it from metal rather than paper means you can go through the ashes of the fire afterwards and retrieve and re-use the coin. I'm not quite sure why you'd need to make a replica when the genuine Qian Long cash coins are so cheap and abundant, though.
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 Posted 03/20/2025  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Similar looking coins are FD#2301 and FD#2311 with a note "carved mother coin".
Not saying that's what the OP coin is.
Just saying the filled in square having a round hole looks similar.
Some sources may say "engraved or ancestor mother coin".
And there could be a connection to Vietnam as found online having an image looking like this one:

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03/20/2025 06:52 am
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