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A Counterfeit Florin From 1923

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 Posted 04/02/2025  11:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jdsstrat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I must be getting good at this because no sooner did I put this one in my hand and I knew it was off. Sure enough it weighed in at 9.27 grams, a full 2 grams less than it should. The diameter is about right but that's about it. The color is off, the reeding, and the detail has that counterfeit blur. Not that bad a job though so I am doubting it came from China. As usual, however, I will defer to the collected wisdom of this forum. Any thoughts on this counterfeit's origins?
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P.S. I know this may be hard to believe, but it doesn't look as bad in person as it does in the pictures.
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04/02/2025 11:29 pm
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An article from 1968 shows a sampling of counterfeit florins with this date being the most common.
No way of knowing the source of these as they could have come from almost anywhere.

https://www.britnumsoc.org/publicat...NJ_37_21.pdf
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I am pretty sure this would be a contemporary forgery, made during the 1920s or early 1930s. I have seen a number before, usually florins or half crowns.
So we can't blame the Chinese for that one! Maybe Britain or Europe.
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I think counterfeiters were taking advantage of the fact that the new 50% silver coins often turned yellowish in circulation. There seems to be lots of fakes around from 1920-23.
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Yep, contemporary counterfeit, made from lead or a lead-based alloy, given some kind of silver ash or finish to help it pass.
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