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Already took your advice on VAMWorld @livingwater.
If these are counterclashes, would they be pressed out more quickly since they're not in the fields? If so, they wouldn't be clearly visible on most examples.
As to the damage on the N and E, isn't it possible with the rotated die clashes that the damage is due to one of the Obverse dots? The damage is circular and appears to affect the middle area of the letters, which is where the dot would line up with them on a rotated strike.
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One thing I like to do is download the full coin shots of a VAM from VAMWorld to check them out more closely. Sometimes you can pick out things on the full coin shots that are not always mentioned or picked out in the description. That being said, it could just be die damage and not necessarily clashing, in this case but you could still possibly match it up. If a different die stage though, it might not show.
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I am familiar with VAMWorld and the pictures I've cited were downloaded from the full size full coin. Good to know for the future though, thank you.
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I asked this in my post on VAMWorld's forum but I figured it was worth asking here as well - Is it known what caused the "Winged L" Die Gouge (shown below) on the 1882-CC VAM-2D? 
Edited by UnimpossibIe 05/08/2025 11:27 pm
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Well, the general concensus over at VAMWorld is that my theories are wildly incorrect. Things were said, I may have called someone "Uncle Bingbong", I'm not proud of it. Anyway, I'm gonna take some good advice I got and put this project on a shelf until I know more about clashing. Thank you all for your help, as always it is truly appreciated.
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Excellent Topic, Clashes, Counter-clashes, Transferred Letters,  Very interesting read. I am impressed with Knowledge seen Here that Exists among members, UnimpossibIe, makecents, VAMsforMoney, and livingwater, Well Done  Unimpossible, Best wishes on Your Project....  VamsforMoney, Your Die knowledge of " Let's start with the basics " Is Awesome . I can not wait for more feedback, Thank You, MD
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@Morgans Dad due to a current lack of free time and for the sake of my mental well-being, I'm probably not going to revisit this project for a while. I presented my case at VAMWorld with an admitted lack of knowledge and the vast majority of comments indicated that my theories were unlikely if not impossible. I admittedly grew frustrated due to a lack of alternate explanations for the marks I observed, at which point John Roberts (vampicker) generously took the time to explain why some of my theories were incorrect. Until I've had a chance to properly educate myself on clashing and the minting process in general, I think it'd be a waste of everyone's time not to defer to his expertise. That being said, if you wish to read further about my soft-baked theories, you are welcome to visit the discussion thread on VAMWorld: https://vamworld.com/forum/viewtopi...ilit=1882+ccThere you will find overlays, in-depth explanations of my hypothesis, as well as me getting upset because someone called me "Bruh". It's a rich tapestry. Anyway, thank you for your interest and for the kind words, they are truly appreciated.
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I use to play in that arena Long ago, They are a unique, Highly Talented, Very Experienced, Extremely Knowledgeable group. I too use to send examples to Mr Van Allen, He's a Very Unique Co-Founder of the study of VAMS...... May I suggest a Hard copy to research from, The Comprehensive Catalog and Encyclopedia of Morgan & Peace dollars, By Leroy C. Van Allen & A. George Mallis, Forth Edition is My go to for ANY Morgan and Peace dollar History, A Very handy Over 500 hundred pages of pictorial and Informative Wealth. Knowledge is Power.....  This Books " VAM " Knowledge skills Will provide you with a Very good Understanding, Thanks Again for Sharing, Please, Reach out any time, If I can help, Best wishes, Mike.
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Thank you Mike, that is very kind. When I find the time and motivation to continue my education I will definitely pick up a copy of that, in addition to a couple other suggestions I've receieved. Have a great weekend.
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