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1p Die Stamped Into A 2p Coin

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Just going through a small batch of finds.... what is this?!? Anyone seen anything like this before?
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 Posted 05/20/2025  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a hammer job - the reverse lettering is the clue.
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 Posted 05/20/2025  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdsstrat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Incredible find! Congrats! Be patient, the experts here will be weighing in shortly...
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 Posted 05/20/2025  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like the Penny is the wrong way round. Look at the number 1. The flat area on the other side of the 2p makes it look like it has been placed into a press, the 1p placed on top of it, and the press closed. My guess is that someone did this at their workplace to see what would happen. This might explain why the 2p is no longer exactly round. All good clean fun!
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 Posted 05/20/2025  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Looks like a hammer job - the reverse lettering is the clue.
PMD.
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I agree - the coin was damaged post mint.
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The coins were pressed together in a vice or hit with a hammer. Post-mint damage.
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The other (and perhaps far more common) way of making such a coin is to have a large and heavy but wobbly piece of furniture, so you put a couple of coins under one of the furniture legs to stop the wobbling. Then you leave it there for a couple of decades before removing the coins. It's the same effect: two normal coins get squeezed together, and the design from one coin gets stamped into the other.

There is, presumably, somewhere out there a matching 1p coin that's been squashed flat on the obverse and has a faint impression of a large queen-face stamped into the reverse.
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The out of round appearance and the backwards lettering is a give away of it being damaged. PMD. Classic Vise Job. Not an error. https://www.error-ref.com/squeeze-j...-garage-job/
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Good thinking, Sap!
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How can it be PMD when the bust of the two pence coin is struck over the one pence coin as well. I believe it is a mated pair if that is the correct term.
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Sorry, but the OP's coin shows every single characteristic of a "hammer job" or "vise job", and not an actual mint error:
- Backwards-incuse lettering, meaning that a second actual coin did the impression, not a coin die;
- A flattened area on the other side of the coin, indicating the coin was not sitting in the die when the damage happened. IN other words, the 2p coin was originally a perfectly normal 2p coin, before the 1p coin hit it;
- the coin is bent and twisted out of round, proving that the coin was not in the collar die when it happened.

It is literally impossible for a coin to come out of the coining press looking like this; it is unavoidable that such an item can only be made from two perfectly normal coins being squeezed together. By hammer, vice, or by the heavy piece of furniture I mentioned in my previous post.
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