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Will The BEP Ever Quit Printing 2017A $2 FRNs And Issue A New Series?

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The series 2017A $2 Federal Reserve Note was first printed in Aug 2019 during the 1st Trump administration and has signatures of Carranza and Mnuchin.

The BEP continued printing these notes during the Biden administration instead of issuing a new series with Yellen/Malerba signatures.

Now that a new Treasurer of the United States has been appointed (Mr. Brandon Beach from Georgia, last month) will we FINALLY get a new series with Bessent/ Beach signatures?

If not this calendar year (the Fed ordered 300,000-400,000 $2 notes for FY2025) then maybe next year, assuming the Fed once again orders $2s for FY2026? maybe a series 2026?

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 Posted 06/28/2025  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lautlos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check page 2 of the March 2025 BEP report.

https://www.bep.gov/media/6981/download?inline

$2 2021

J 000 00001 *
J 005 00000 *

J 032 00001 *
J 064 00000 *
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I did see that $2 FRN * notes were printed in Mar 2025, but didn't notice the report said they were series 2021.

If they really are a series 2021 (and not a BEP misprint) then they are the first $2 FRNs of the series.

Whose signatures are on those notes? It must be Yellen and Malerba (even though neither one of them was in office in March 2025) since those are the signatures on the series 2021 $1 FRN. I wonder if this would be the first time a new series was printed with signatures of a Treasury Secretary and Treasurer with neither of them in office at the time?

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I wonder if this would be the first time a new series was printed with signatures of a Treasury Secretary and Treasurer with neither of them in office at the time?


No.
For example: Mnuchin (Secretary) / Carranza (Treasurer) signature notes were printed long after they had left office.
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Yes, but the series was started and first printed while they were in office. It's not that unusual for a series to continue to be printed for a while after the Secretary and Treasurer have left office.

I'm wondering if this is the first time a series is first printed with the names of folks who are no longer in office.
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Absolutely no reason they can't sign and get the ball rolling already on 2025 notes. IDK why they always seem to see this as an afterthought.
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When I was checking to see if any BEP production reports past Apr 2025 are available (there currently aren't any), I took another look at the BEP's Mar 2025 production report. I'm not 100% convinced that any 2021 series $2 star notes were printed

The report says J* $2 notes were printed BUT it also says that the series letter for the notes was "Q". Unless things have changed, $1 and $2 FRNs don't have a series letter, so a "Q" series letter is not consistent with past practice.

It could be there is a typo in the denomination column and $2 isn't correct. Maybe these were in fact $5 QJ* notes. Guess we'll just have to wait until more BEP reports are available to verify series 2021 $2 FRNs have been printed
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QJ 000 00001 * for $5 was already printed October 2023
QJ 032 00000 *

QJ 032 00001 * in March 2025 could be $5 not $2 i.e. a typo
QJ 064 00000 *

QJ 000 00001 * in March 2025 could not be $5 though: that would collide
QJ 005 00000 *

Time will tell...
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...could not be $5 though: that would collide


RIght you are. I didn't check to see if any $5 QJ* notes had been printed when I said maybe these could be $5s. Can't be 10s or 100s either as those have been printed.

They could be 20s. Twenties would be an easy typo. Leave off the 0 and $20 becomes $2. Plus, it looks like the series 2021 $20 FRNs began printing in Jan 25. Having the first * notes printed in March seems consistent with this start of printing
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I sent a request for clarification to the BEP. Let's see if they respond...
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I sent a request for clarification to the BEP. Let's see if they respond...
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It's getting better. And by that I mean it's getting worse.

Over on another forum someone got the May-to-August reports.

And in the August report those exact $2 notes show up once again...

March 2025
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I filed an electronic FOIA request with the BEP, to get to the bottom of this, i.e. a review and correction of their 2025 reports, and a return to the decade old practice of linking the monthly reports on their public website in a timely fashion. Stay tuned...
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Looks like these notes were printed in the new fifty notes per sheet format. Were the 2017- A $2's printed in this format also?
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> Looks like these notes were printed in the new fifty notes per sheet format.
*** Edited by Staff to add Quote tags. Please use them in the future. ***

For the 500k run it explicitly says 10k sheets.
The 3.2m run could be 100k... or 64k sheets.
It is all speculation until the BEP cleans it up.


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> Were the 2017- A $2's printed in this format also?


Some were. Others were not. Take a look at

https://www.uspapermoney.info/serials/f2017ab.html

https://www.uspapermoney.io/serials/f2017ab.html

https://www.wavelengthinteractive.c...017A&denom=2

whereas the 1st is the now stale site, the 2nd
is the more recent version, and the 3rd is yet
more recent and up-to-date. (Or crawl all the
monthly BEP reports from scratch of course.)
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Over on another forum someone got the May-to-August reports.
...and did they say how they got these reports since they aren't on the BEP's website

and that Aug table is a little different in that it now has a "type" column with "N/A" indicated. Wonder what's that all about
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