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What's The Difference Between An MS66+ And A MS67?
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Theoretically, 66+ is a smidge under 67. Grading being mostly subjective, it's a matter of 'in-the-eye-of-the-grader'--how an individual grader 'sees' the coin in question. Run that same coin past 10 pro graders and you might have 2 instances of 67, 3 instances of 66+, 4 instances of 66, and 1 instance of MS65.
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Theoretically, 66+ is a smidge under 67. Grading being mostly subjective, it's a matter of 'in-the-eye-of-the-grader'--how an individual grader 'sees' the coin in question. Run that same coin past 10 pro graders and you might have 2 instances of 67, 3 instances of 66+, 4 instances of 66, and 1 instance of MS65. Exactly! Thank you for the reality check. In my opinion, it's ridiculous! It's almost like grading coins 66.1, 66.2, 66.3, 66.4, 66.5, 66.6, 66.7, 66.8, 66.9, 67......etc.... If you cracked out an MS66+ coin and resubmitted for grading,, what is the chance that it will come back again as an MS66+? I see labels with that little + sign and it seems to add a lot more value to the coin. Would you rather have a MS66+ coin or a MS67? But it might have something to do with appearance. |
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+/* designations often refer to eye appeal. Many toned coins will have the added superlative if the grader believes the eye appeal will command a premium.
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Grading is an opinion which can change from one grader to the next. Some resubmit their coins hoping to get a higher grade, sometimes they do, sometimes not. I think a lot of coins have been overgraded or undergraded. As the saying goes "buy the coin not the holder." I don't put much stock in the + designation between the grades. They are not used in PCGS photo grade examples that I can see. https://www.pcgs.com/photogradeEdited by livingwater
08/26/2025 11:28 am
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Would you rather have a MS66+ coin or a MS67? The MS67. On principle, because I find the + is annoying. |
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 . Thank you gents! |
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The best way to consider a "+" grade is to recognize the range within any grade. If a TPG services gives a coin a "+" grade, it should be considered a coin at the higher end of the grade spectrum. Similar in some ways to a green bean CAC sticker. A CAC sticker is given for a coin that is solid for the grade, not the "lower end." If there is consistency in "+" grading, in theory at least, "+" coins should nearly always gain a CAC sticker-it would be interesting to find out the stats on that. |
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If there is consistency in "+" grading, in theory at least, "+" coins should nearly always gain a CAC sticker-it would be interesting to find out the stats on that.  |
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I see labels with that little + sign and it seems to add a lot more value to the coin. Would you rather have a MS66+ coin or a MS67? How about, would you rather have an MS66 coin or an MS66+? I think the "Plus" (+) sign is ridiculous if used as a rating, for eye appearance, OK... Edited by CoinForMe
08/27/2025 6:36 pm
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The difference is weather the coin flip lands on heads or tails. Heads gets the plus tails dose not.  |
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How about, would you rather have an MS66 coin or an MS66+?
I think the "Plus" (+) sign is ridiculous if used as a rating, for eye appearance, OK... I would rather have an MS66+, especially if it makes the coin more valuable. |
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keep in mind that the grading scale does not allow for a '+' grade just like it doesn't include a '-' grade. when assigned it just means that the coin is nicer overall than a typical coin in that grade. whether its fewer marks or eye appeal or luster. its very subjective and after grading hundreds of similar coins it is easier to determine which ones are exceptional for that grade. what is does do when assigned is it adds a premium to the value of the coin
in todays world CAC is the go to grading service that assigns a colored bean for these coins. Green (solid for the grade), Yellow (higher quality for the grade) and Gold (exceeds the grade assigned)
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keep in mind that the grading scale does not allow for a '+' grade just like it doesn't include a '-' grade. when assigned it just means that the coin is nicer overall than a typical coin in that grade. I agree... |
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