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$48,000 Difference Resubmitted 1922 Proof Peace Dollar To PCGS

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 Posted 09/24/2025  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LuciusLeclef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin was first examined by Heritage Holland, then sent to Heritage in Dallas where it was reviewed by their specialists and experts. After that, it was looked at again by multiple graders at PCGS.

So why would no one inform me about a simple dip, if it was that obvious? Not even after I asked multiple times.

Please tell me why they would not do that?
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to the Community, LuciusLeclef and thank you for sharing your own experience with us.
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 Posted 09/24/2025  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peaceof8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Fnlizer14

This person was sent to muddy the waters. There is no difference between these two coins. Don't believe your lying eyes - right?

PCGS got lazy and comfortable in their dominion. Their regrading of the same coin from 'Altered Surfaces PR60' to PR63 is a tacit admission of incompetence or worse. Their inability to at least acknowledge they can make mistakes is telling. Their industry needs to be regulated and they should be required to provide quality control documentation for their grading, particularly of coin of this stature.
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If I was the original owner I'd be upset. With such a rare coin you'd think PCGS could have checked their database to see it had been submitted before and given a reason why the grade was changed. If it had some conservation done then who did it? I looked at the pics of both grades, could not see any significant difference, could just be the lighting when the photographs were taken, my opinion. At the very least the original owner deserved better explanations from Heritage and PCGS.
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This is the coin RAW and in PR63.
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I pulled up both certs from PCGS. This claim of seeing plastics on the lower Eagle is hogwash. Most likely dipped with the new grade but altered surfaces / details is bunk.

I swing a metal detector and have a knack for finding dirty old coins.
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I had a somewhat similar experience when I sold my Draped Bust Half Dime, albeit with a better outcome.
When it was first sent for grading by GC, NGC said it had altered surfaces. Then it was decided to try PCGS who gave it "damaged" assessment. Either way, I was reasonably happy with the sale outcome.
PCGS Cert 42430382.
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