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Xianfeng Yuanbao 1000 Cash Coin - Counterfeit Or Not?

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It's probably not real but I thought I would show the experts here and let you tell me what you think. Very appreciated.



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@tree, first welcome to CCF. Second, what is the weight and diameter of this piece? This information can be helpful. Thx.
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It weighs 78 g and is 6 cm and a magnet does not stick to it.

From what I understand this means that it's too heavy and is likely filled with lead instead of copper. I've also been told that the calligraphy looks too soft. Also I tried to have it graded by PCGS and they sent it back and refused to grade it, which I'm told also means it's likely fake.
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I am seeing way too many warning signs for this coin: it's an overall poor cast, and very much what I'd expect for a privately-made casting using a genuine coin as mould. I would presume it to be a fake.
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Thanks for the input. When we first found the coin we were really excited. It's too bad but it still is a cool piece of history. Thanks!
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Weight is actually about right for this particular coinage.

https://en.numista.com/50153

Not my field but I think it's a bit too early to dismiss it as a counterfeit.
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I also tried to have it graded by PCGS and they sent it back and refused to grade it, which I'm told also means it's likely fake.


This from PCGS : How To Submit Your Qing Dynasty Cash for Grading
Ancient coin grading services are currently only available through the PCGS office in Shanghai. Individuals who register as a Collectors Club member on the PCGS Shanghai official website (www.pcgs.com.cn) can submit their ancient Chinese cash coins from the Qing Dynasty or submit through any PCGS Authorized Dealer. For more information about submitting coins for grading under this new service, please visit https://www.pcgs.com/ancients.
I agree with gxseries.
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I think this is a replica made using the sand casting process.
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