Bensheim Notgeld - How To Read The Numista Reference

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NumiFan Valued Member Poland 136 Posts	Posted 12/28/2025 10:41 am Hi! I have the same 5 pfennig 1917 notgeld (zinc) from the city of Bensheim. https://en.numista.com/28384 I've checked my coin and it's F#34.3a) Obverse: spear enter's the dragon, planchet is 0.7 mm up to 1.0 mm thick I don't understand the 'Frequency' column. There are F#34.3 type 81% F#34.3a) type 15% F#34.3b) type 12% I assume that there should be 100% in total.... Also, are there 3 types in total or just 2 of them, so 34.3a) + 34.3b) ? I guess that I simply don't know how to read this data correctly. I'd appreciate an advice regarding this. Report this Post to the Staff

HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 24878 Posts	Posted 12/28/2025 11:08 am The "frequency" refers to the number of Numista members who have indicated that the coin is in their collection. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
NumiFan Valued Member Poland 136 Posts	Posted 12/29/2025 12:29 am Thanks so much for clarifying this. When dealing notgelds I noticed that there are a lot of varieties. The above Bensheim coin has only two but there are notgelds that have a lot more. What's the best way to find the exact mintage for the specific variety to determine which one is rare and which isn't? Some coins found on Numista have their mintage shown but they only shows the total mintage of all varietes without differentiating each of them. I have a lot of notgelds so I've just started to check these coins and their values. Some of them are in an I/UNC condition but finding the similar references is hard in most cases. I wonder if notgelds are just not so popular as they are local coinage only so that could be a reason for low amount of data sources? Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 24878 Posts	Posted 12/29/2025 09:04 am There is quite a bit of data about notgeld - if you speak German. The information on Numista is only a tiny fraction of the information about them. This doctoral thesis by J. Hartman is mainly about notgeld currency but there may be a few resources about coins: https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/epri...n%20Copy.pdf Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1910 Posts	Posted 12/29/2025 10:57 am I use the Walter Funck books Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7933 Posts	Posted 12/29/2025 1:17 pm Quote: Also, are there 3 types in total or just 2 of them, so 34.3a) + 34.3b) ? Unfortunately this is an example of a well-intentioned improvement to a Numista listing making somewhat of a mess. The listing was first created with just one type, F#34.3, and members began registering it in their collections. Then someone with access to Funck realized there were two varieties, 34.3a and 34.3b, and entered the two new lines in the date table. However, there was no way to know which members who already listed their coin as just 34.3 should be allocated to the new date lines. So they were left on the original date line. If @Albert can comfirm from Funck that there are only varieties 34a and 34b, this can be fixed so it is less confusing Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1910 Posts	Posted 12/29/2025 2:42 pm 34.1, 34.2a, 34.2b, 34.5 pertain to 5 pf But there is more showing a type 1, a,b,c,d A type 2 a & b Other variation numbers apply to the 10 & 50pf Translation notes pertain to the placement of the lance, dragon or the knight's feet and / or the coins legend Report this Post to the Staff
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