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C Ya Reddit. Some US Currency Questions

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I'm here fresh from getting banned from the US currency sub reddit...I used a "bad word", which was apparently counterfeit in one post, and who knows what in another post.

I've become interested in collectible US currency, both for the art and the investment.

So, my specific questions are;

1. Which brand graded holders are viable? (Seems like only PMG & PCGS)

2. Are those graded holders ever counterfeited? (Ohh, a bad word)

3. Is e-bay a decent place to buy said graded notes? If no, where?

4. How do you tell what you should be paying for a graded note?

5. Are the graded notes a good investment? Are they generally expected to keep up with inflation, at least?

6. What are some holy grail notes, and some that are desirable, but maybe no holy grail level?

In general, I'm not interested in the $1 denomination, I really like that 1899 $5 silver cert with the indian on the front, gold certs are cool, and not interested at all in colonial stuff, or state-issued stuff.

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My bad. Got carried away...
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 Posted 01/12/2026  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdngmt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
can you give you 1 quick answer

2. Are those graded holders ever counterfeited?....yes absolutely and unfortunately often ,,,unless you think you can really pick up multiple copies of graded $1k coins offered out for less that $100
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and so far, I have not seen any bad words..

Hopefully, some of our note experts will get to answering some of your questions.
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1. Which brand graded holders are viable? (Seems like only PMG & PCGS)

2. Are those graded holders ever counterfeited? (Ohh, a bad word)

3. Is e-bay a decent place to buy said graded notes? If no, where?

4. How do you tell what you should be paying for a graded note?

5. Are the graded notes a good investment? Are they generally expected to keep up with inflation, at least?

6. What are some holy grail notes, and some that are desirable, but maybe no holy grail level?


1. For the most part. If you are buying online and unable to see the notes in person, you should have confidence in PMG and PCGS.

2. Yes, but the counterfeit paper money slabs that I have seen are obvious if you are familiar with the genuine slabs. They usually get the fontface or layout wrong. You can check the certs on PCGS Banknote (note the old PCGS) and PMG, if concerned.

3. Yes. But also check Heritage, Stacks, Archives International and other auction houses.

4. Look up SOLD items on ebay or the archives of the other auction houses.

5. No. Like all hobby related items, they are subject to cycles. And some of the markets are thin (meaning not many collectors) and all it takes is one or two people to get in or out of an area and the market takes off or bottoms out.

As an example, high denomination notes were hot many years ago, then cooled off and are hot again. Large size type notes were hot when there were a couple well-heeled collectors who were collecting every available type. When they got out of the market, it cooled considerably.

6. This answer will depend on what area you are talking about.
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1. Which brand graded holders are viable? (Seems like only PMG & PCGS)

That seems to be the consensus, yes.

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2. Are those graded holders ever counterfeited? (Ohh, a bad word)

This forum has a lot of swear-words you cannot use (most are in the automated swear-word filter so it's impossible to post them), but "counterfeit" is not one of them. Discussion of counterfeits, and how to detect, avoid or report them, is quite commonplace here. As for the more specific question here: yes. Any artifact made by clever humans, can be counterfeited by other humans that are determined and equally clever. And consider: someone with the skill and technology to make a passably good replica of an official government banknote, probably wont have too much trouble making a passably good counterfeit piece of plastic with a hologram in it.

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3. Is e-bay a decent place to buy said graded notes? If no, where?

The core problem with ebay is that it (currently) has an abysmal reputation in terms of refusing to take down listings of blatantly counterfeit items, simply because the Counterfeit Detection process has been handed over to an AI and AI is (currently) doing a horrible job of it.

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4. How do you tell what you should be paying for a graded note?

Past auction results are perhaps a good indicator, but it would also do well to check the long-term results, to see if price trends are increasing or decreasing. This of course only works for items that are sufficiently abundant to provide enough data points to plot a price history graph.

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5. Are the graded notes a good investment? Are they generally expected to keep up with inflation, at least?

Banknotes, in my observation, have been more vulnerable to price spikes and sudden collapses than coins. This, combined with their more ephemeral physical nature (they are, after all, only made of easily destructible paper rather than precious metal) makes me want to rate them as "poor investments".

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6. What are some holy grail notes, and some that are desirable, but maybe no holy grail level?

The question seems to be asking what notes can be expected to hold their value. And for me, the answer would be similar to the answer for coins: items that are popular with actual collectors, rather than are high-priced due to an investor-driven hype-train, ought to do better. It's like the difference between blue-chip stocks and penny dreadfuls - good fundamnetals should protect from sudden or permanent price plunges. And banknotes with strong collector appeal are, generally, the ones that look nice, and/or have interesting history. The "Education" series of large size notes, for example; I'd also put Gold Certificates there.
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1. I like them both.

2. Yes sadly

3. Yes for ebay be more cautious here of bogus sellers. I also use great collections and heritage

4. Recent sold auctions

5. The market can be fickle. I collect to enjoy not as my future income.

6. Holy grail for me may not be same for you. Find your interest area and you will be able to determine what the holy grail is.

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Collecting for me was the incredible opportunity to hold history in my hands. Collected because you're genuinely interested and somewhat passionate about past times. I think of some of the beautiful large-size currency as art with a practical purpose. Knowledge is the key, buy the book before you buy the note.
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Which book?
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It's just an expression - "first the book, then the coin" (or "note", in this case) is old-boys-in-the-coin-club advice and simply means "educate yourself before spending lots of money on numismatic items". In ages past, this did mean literally buying or borrowing books and reading them, but these days finding good reference websites for your material can work just as well.
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