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Late Roman Bronze Oddities

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I like looking for unusual ancients and here is my latest.

Late-Roman-Bronze-Oddities

Constantine II
A.D. 324- 325
AE nummus 17x19mm 2.7g
CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C; Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust left.
PROVIDENTIAE CAESS; campgate, two turrets, no doors, star above.
In ex. STR
RIC VII Trier 455

The reverse of this coin has a small circular punch in the right field. It was struck hard enough that it made a raised area on the obverse to the left of the chin. I have seen similar punches on Indian coinage; but typically much earlier than this coin was struck. Maybe it has no significance at all. It also has patina and a bit of green indicating it was not done recently.

The punch also looks a lot like the O in the obverse legend. Punches were used for the letters; but this was done on the dies, not the planchet. Perhaps, a bored mint worker (I'm looking at you Octavius!) punched an O on an already struck coin for some reason...his initial or a friends.




This Constantine I brockage has a line under the reverse bust. For some obscure reason, somebody did this to the flan before striking; and yes, everything on the reverse is incuse, including the line.


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21mm 2.9g
IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
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Do you think that the two aspects (brockage and line) are related in any way?
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Brockages happen when a coin "sticks" to one die and isn;t removed befoe the next coin is struck. Perhaps the blanks had become overheated to the point of becoming soft and sticky. In such circumstances, brockaged coins might stick to each other too. I'm wondering if this coin had become "stuck" to the coin that had caused the brockage, and the ancient mint worker had used some kind of wedge or drill-like tool to prise the two coins apart again, thus creating the groove?
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Do you think that the two aspects (brockage and line) are related in any way?


No, because a brockage occurs when the coin gets stuck to the die and the next strike produces a mirror image on one side of the planchet; so it will only be an image of a coin. Something else was done here.
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I'm wondering if this coin had become "stuck" to the coin that had caused the brockage, and the ancient mint worker had used some kind of wedge or drill-like tool to prise the two coins apart again, thus creating the groove?


No, because this would mean that the worker left the coin stuck to the die after trying to remove it. These brockage coins stuck to the die fell off on their own.


edited to add-- whatever made the line was done to the planchet before striking, as it is under the bust; but not on the obverse.
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I really like the Constantine I brockage coin.
Would these be circulated on purpose or would they enter the 'market' by accident?
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would they enter the 'market' by accident?


Yes, these were accidents that occurred when the worker did not notice that a coin was stuck to the die. Obverse brockages are fairly common; while reverse are rarer. The reason is that it would be easier to see if a coin was stuck to the bottom die; which was the obverse.

here is a reverse brockage


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Gallienus (A.D. 260- 268)

The reverse is AETERNITAS AVG, Saturn with harpa standing right; PXV in exergue. RIC 606


here is an obverse brockage for Tetricus


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and here is a crazy partial reverse brockage


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Constantine I
A.D. 320
18x19mm 2.3g
CONST-[ANTINVS AVG]; helmeted and cuirassed bust right.
VIRTVS EXERCIT, [Valor of the army] Standard inscribed VOT/XX with captive seated on ground on either side, S-F across fields.
in ex. AQ[P]
RIC VII Aquileia 48
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Very interesting, thank you Victor. Some good examples there.
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Victor thank you for posting and again sharing your knowledge. Learn something new on every thread. I have a really nice example of a double strike. Not rare, but this one is a beauty:

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Constans. D N CONST-ANS P F AVG, pearl-diademed head right
/ VOT XX ? within wreath. Mintmark ? The only part of the mintmark I can make out is the letter is a delta; but it's from an Eastern mint, like Nicomedia, Heraclea or Cyzicus.
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