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 to the community! Could be, a lot of/all of the mattes made had thick rims. I personally think it's likely, perhaps check the die markers. |
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I attached a photo of die markers between the 9, 1, and 6 in the date. I was told those 4-5 marks were present on 1916 P matte proofs but I'm trying to confirm with someone who can carry for sure.
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It looks like those match with a known die pair, so now I'd say it's highly likely.
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Right?! So I don't know what to do at this point. I sent it into NGC and they graded it cleaned. Would not provide any other information. I think they overlooked that it was a proof coin. Any suggestions?
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To CCF! Looks good to me. Errers and Varietys.
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I found that 3 die pairs were used for the 1916 matte proof. Marv that only lists 2 pairs but thank you. I'll be sure to look over. I think the third die pair could have been used on circulated business strikes as well.
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Possible, it's all about the die markers and the experience with these in order to attribute. Did you submit it as a proof to NGC? If you did, perhaps someone made a mistake, call them ASAP. Lets see the slab please. 1916 is a tricky year because they modified the design and re-engraved the master hub that year. Many very, very sharp business coins were produced with exceptional detail in 1916. This master hub produced both the business and proof strike dies so those little nicks and imperfections in the proof working die(s) are about the only way to tell the difference. I probably told you what you already knew - but GOOD LUCK FRIEND! I'd say it's a beautiful coin, I absolutely LOVE that very fine woodgrained look!  Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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I think the third die pair could have been used on circulated business strikes as well. There has been some VERY strong indicators that retired proof dies for Lincolns were moved into production. 1909 being the most suspect year, I don't recall anything like of this for 1916 off the top of my head..... but anything is possible with the mint. Either fix your issue with NGC or use another TPG. Honestly, I'd try to save some money, challenge ICG with the coin. They are experts in Lincoln cents - I know their main grader Skip, a true expert in numismatics. If he's is unsure, he knows who to talk to. They will get it right! Edited by BadThad
02/21/2026 12:46 am
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to the CCF Please be mindful to include the denomination in your thread title. There were many denominations minted in 1916 and the year alone does not identify the specific coin you wish to discuss. I'm going to ask a moderator to include it in your title. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Dang, that's a nice looking coin  . Appears to be at least mid MS/PF, what grade did NGC give? Edited by coin rejector
02/21/2026 3:39 pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but the 1916 Matte Proof Lincoln Cent has the lowest mintage for the entire Matte Proof Lincoln Cent series of only 600 total coins minted, right? I clearly see the squared off rim matte proofs are known for... So yeah, there's gonna be a huge difference in value between a MS example and a matte proof example. Is it possible to call NGC directly and actually talk to a real person about this? I'd be frustrated as hell over this if it were me!  |
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to the Community! |
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Just recently went to a coin auction and some high end dealers are suggesting that an error was made on NGC's part and informed me they are by far the worst place to send your coins into. Many mistakes from their experience. Will be calling again tomorrow to escalate this. They told me I could send it in again but I would be charged to have it reevaluated.
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 Here's it is. I'm pretty frustrated. Spent close to $450 for 5 coins to be graded. |
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Posted 02/20/2026 7:08 pm
